[nick]

Is anyone familiar with the goldendoodle. Like what about temperment and shedding and allergies.

Thanks

[Curbside Prophet]

A glodendoodle, or any kind of doodle for that matter is a mutt. There are no standards for mutts, and therfore to predict anything about a mutt would be guessing. And you know what Forest said about a box of chocolates. Doodles are a fad created by irresponsible breeders to pick the pocket of the gullible. They sell their dogs to customers who think they are getting something new, different, or trendy...thus the term fad. These dogs can't be genetically tested like most known breeds (if goldendoodle to goldendoodle), therefore you assume a greater risk to predisposed genetic disorders. Other than that, if I found one to adopt from a shelter, they can be great dogs. But of course I feel that way about every dog.

[DogAdvocat]

Originally Posted by nick

Is anyone familiar with the goldendoodle. Like what about temperment and shedding and allergies.

Thanks

Read all about poodles. Then read all about golden retrievers. Then take a wild guess what your dog is going to be like - it might be more like the poodle (doesn't shed) or more like the golden (does shed), or a combination (sheds from the front and not the back? <g>), or maybe every other hair will fall out and the hair next to it will curl?

Like all other mixed breeds, you have a grab bag. There's lots of them in the pounds, so if you decide you want another mixed breed, how about adopting?

[Wimble Woof]

There is no guarantee that a golden poodle mix will be hypo allergenic. Regardless of what the "breeder" may say... there is still going to be Golden genes in the dog and they are not hypo allergenic... the prices for these "designer breeds" are horrendous!!!! I have seen ads here for that mix asking $2500!!!! You can get a "goldendoodle" at a shelter for a fraction of that price and most likely the same odds of genetic disorders.
Be very careful with what you decide here, these are not breeds they are mixes ( mixes make great pets) however, anyone who is breeding these dogs is unethical... no amount or talk or defence on this issue proves anything other than they are BYB's!

Check your local shelter if this is the breed mix you have your heart set on... saving a life instead of encouraging production of more!!!!!

[Leila12345666]

Ummm you CANT guess the temperment or what the dog will look like in a Mutt. So you might have to research both the Standard Poodle and Golden Retriever, and even then it will be hard to predict the temperment and all that. And besides why would you spend $1000 or more on these pups? There are plenty of them at rescues who only go for $100 or less as an adoption fee. If you are looking for one of them just research a shelter near you. I know you wont find one right away but if you are willing to rescue it does not matter how long it takes as long as you save a doggie

[Snowshoe]

Leila....if I didn't know better....I'd ALMOST think we'd converted you

Which is freakin' awesome, might I add...

To the OP-

Take what everyone said here very seriously. Like any mutt, it's anyone's guess.

If you buy one from a breeder or a petstore, you'll be ripped off. There are no two ways about that.

Take care, keep us posted!

[Keno's Mom]

There is no guarentee that any dog bred with a poodle to create a "designer" dog will or won't shed. Its a MUTT - its not a breed and if you are lining the pocket of a puppymill or backyard breeder by buying one, you should be ashamed of yourself.

If you are really interested in it, check out the shelters/Petfinder.com and look for one that someone has dumped - because it didn't fit what they expected.

That's the problem - people buy into the designer breeds, pay outrageous prices for the mutt, then when it doesn't turn out "right" - the poor dog is dumped in the shelter or worse.

Please don't be foolish enough to buy into the designer market. If you like those types of dogs, I'm sure you can find the right one in a shelter or rescue group.

[sobreeze]

i agree with all the posts above a mutt is a mutt you never know what your going to get and leila i think from your last few post we may have changed the way you think glad you came around

[Leila12345666]

Thanks

[nick]

Thanks so much for your advice. I was trying to find out the bad about the doodle but no one could help me. I called my local shelter and they told me that they were great dogs but I would know what I was getting. I currently have a purebread poodle and love her to death but we want another dog retriever like that does not shed. After reading your responses I would not buy into the doodle world. I'm sure they are great but not for everyone. I am trying to find a family dog that we could all love. Currently my poodle is toy and my husband and child don't get the same gratification from her that I do. They want a dog. (so my husband says) I have looked into the wheaten but I have never owned a terrier and so I wouldn't know what to expect. I called 3 trainers in my area inquiring about the wheatens and two of them told me that they could never be trusted. I am so confused on what breed to go with.....

[Keno's Mom]

I owned a cairn terrier as a teenager. I love them but almost all terriers have that "fighting spirit" and a big chip on their shoulders. They are smart dogs, but it takes work and consistency to keep them in line. They are the ones that usually challange any size dog.

My cairn hated the lab across the street - and would go crazy every time he heard King bark. Well one day (during a rain storm, which Boo hated going out in the rain) he heard King barking. Rain or no rain he ran off the porch, straight across the street and started to fight with King. Poor King was not a fighting dog and was doing his best to get away from Boo. Luckily Boo didn't hurt him but that's the "aggressive" terrier attitude.

I don't know about the wheaten terriers (never looked them up) but I'm sure they have the "terrier attitude".

Perhaps if you don't want another poodle, you might try a schnauzer - they don't shed and you'd have to groom them like the poodle. Schnauzers don't have that "terrier" attitude.

[anndi39]

I would like to hear from an actual goldendoodle owner who is unhappy with them.... I have only heard from people who love theirs. I certainly acknowledge they are mixed breeds, and you cannot predict exactly what you will get, but from what I have heard from doodle owners is that they are very happy with their dog. I for one, am very happy with mine, and I own both a standard poodle and a doodle.

[RonE]

Forgive me if I already mentioned this in the past 10 days. Somehow, I've lost track.

A friend who had always had Goldens got himself a Goldendoodle. After he'd had the dog for a while, I asked when he was going to bring him around for a visit.

"Not gonna happen," he said. It seems what he got is a dog that barks all the time, sheds like crazy, digs up the yard, is afraid of the water and won't ride in the car. Otherwise, he is a model citizen.

For what he paid for that dog, my friend could've adopted a whole pack of Plott Hounds from a shelter. At least then he'd have some stories to tell the grandchildren.

Originally Posted by anndi39

I would like to hear from an actual goldendoodle owner who is unhappy with them.... I have only heard from people who love theirs.

Actually, I'm not sure I remember anyone here who is really unhappy with their dog. We all have issues but we all love what we've got, or we don't talk about it.

I have seen plenty of Goldendoodles with very happy owners, but I think the point that I, and others, have tried to make is that it's a crap shoot. You pay a lot of money and can't be sure what you'll end up with. I'd rather take my chances on an adult shelter dog.

[DoggieLover]

Obviously one has no control over the dog's appearance (color, size, coat texture, etc) or how much he/she sheds but either mixed breeds or purebreds can have behavior problems as puppies (i.e. barking, won't ride in the car, etc). It's just a matter of whether the dog is socialized properly or not and how much time the owner is willing to spend on training, classes, etc.

You make it sound as if only mixed breed/designer dogs have these issues, which is not true. There are plenty of purebred dogs in shelters too because their owners were not willing to take the time to properly train their puppies or deal with "problem" behaviors such as not being housetrained, barking, too hyper, etc. The problem here lies with the owners themselves, not mixed breed dogs.

I have a friend who purchased a purebred Golden from a reputable breeder as a puppy. Now, she claims that the dog is too hyper and tears up her house, barks too much, bites/nips people frequently during play, and is apparently getting too large for her liking - he just "isn't as cute as he was when he was a puppy."

Bottom line - it doesn't just happen with mixed breeds, people.

[Wimble Woof]

Mixed breed dogs have a greater spectrum of genetic defects, who can tell which health problems may come through from either parent?
With purebreds, granted you do some serious homework on the breeder and their ethics, you have better reassurances.

[Alpha]

A retriever that doesn't shed...

Darnit, I was just watching the Westminster and there was a curly coated breed that apparently doesn't shed..

I agree with all of the above posts, with these new designer breeds there is NO breed standard, it's impossible to tell what a litter is going to turn out like.

If you want a mutt go to the shelter.

If you have specific wants/needs for a dog do a lot of research on any and EVERY recognized breed that you can. There's over a hundred of them and I'm sure one will fit your match.

[Springerlover]

The Origins of Dog Breeds
Canine breeds come into existence in many different ways and their beginnings are very often shrouded in obscurity. Let it not be thought that the three or four hundred-odd dog breeds now extant are the only ones possible, or that there cannot be any more truly new breeds. Such is the genetic plasticity of the dog that there is no end to the possible unique variations of which the species is capable. New breeds are born and old breeds die periodically. The genetic transformation of the dog goes on ceaselessly, and for that reason it is impossible that any breed should remain frozen, with all its characteristics fixed and unchanging, for any appreciable length of time. It must be realized that canine breeds are manmade, created by artificial election out of the endless diversity of the canine gene pool. Breeds must not be confused with species or even subspecies, which occur naturally under the influence of natural selection; dog breeds are only unstable manmade varieties which would not survive unchanged in the natural world without human management.

I have never read so many rude post on one site.

The previous post was my husband, he is a smart man, obviously, because he thought most of you were rude also.

Enought of that, I have said it to many times.

The retriever you may have seen was the Curly Coated retriever. Here is what is said about them:
Wickedly smart, versatile, and fun-loving are all words fanciers of this unusual breed use to describe the Curly Coated Retriever. However, their charm and versatility are a well-kept secret here in the United States. Curly owners invariably are asked, “Is that a curly Labrador Retriever? A Labradoodle (Labrador-Poodle mix)? Do they shed?” The answers to these common questions are No, No and Yes. er.
Various sources propose that older versions of the Curly Water Dog, the St. Johns Newfoundland, Tweed Spaniel, Irish Water Spaniel and the Poodle all contributed to the development of the Curly Coated Retriever. The breed has changed very little since it was first shown in England in 1860.
Taken from this site/
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/curlycr.html
good site for this breed of dog.

[DoggieLover]

Originally Posted by Alpha

If you have specific wants/needs for a dog do a lot of research on any and EVERY recognized breed that you can. There's over a hundred of them and I'm sure one will fit your match.

Unfortunately this was not the case for me, as I mentioned in another thread. And yes, I did do my research - online, books, talking to people in dog forums and asking for opinions/advice...everything. Yes, I can be picky. My perfect dog as far as looks and temperament are concerned just so happened to be a mixed breed/designer dog. I'm not ashamed to admit it, although I know that pretty much everyone here disagrees with me, which is fine. You are all entitled to your own opinions, tastes, etc just as I am entitled to mine.

Yes, I did check my local shelters first and found that this wasn't an option for me.

I have no qualms about purchasing another designer dog, provided that when the time comes, I am still unable to find one in any local shelters. Many people have asked me where I got my dog, as they are pretty rare in my area, and I willingly provide my breeder's information. It is unfortunate that I have to defend my decision like this. But I love my dog...he is my perfect companion...and to me, this is all that matters.

[Wimble Woof]

Originally Posted by DoggieLover

But I love my dog...he is my perfect companion...and to me, this is all that matters.

Although I have strong disagreements to the whole Designer dog topic and firmly stand by them...
You are right there

[RonE]

Originally Posted by Alpha

A retriever that doesn't shed...

Darnit, I was just watching the Westminster and there was a curly coated breed that apparently doesn't shed..

I didn't see it, but I'm guessing you saw an American Water Spaniel. It's the state dog of Wisconsin, developed about twenty miles from here, but probably more rare than the Plott hound - even in Wisconsin.



A friend has one. Very nice dog. Smaller than a standard poodle. Very high energy. (Oliver is Esther's ball-chasing buddy.)

For those who wouldn't have a standard poodle, at least one person has told my friend that Ollie is a very nice poodle. After that, another friend put one of those "I Love My Poodle" tags on the spaniel-owners car. Honestly, Ollie looks more poodle-ish than the picture above. Maybe he really DOES have a poodle.