my dogs a biter

mijmils5 · 01-12-2007, 06:00 PM

Can anyone help me? I have a 9wk old lab mix puppy and he is way to rough when he plays. I also have a 15month old daughter and she is defenseless and has bite marks and claws marks everywere. I need help what can I do?

Leila12345666 · 01-12-2007, 06:05 PM

At that age the puppy is just play bitting he can also be rough when he plays but he does NOT mean to hurt anyone. Thats how they play when they play with their littermates and they sometimes confuce the human hand with one. I had that problem as well with Nena my puppy. She is now growing and is calming down. Your puppy is probably teething as well so its all coming at once. That does NOT mean he is aggrecive. What you might want to do is get him a Nylabone and each time he bites you say NO TEETH firmly and hand him the bone. You might also want to spray your daugthers and your hands with Bitter Apple Juice. Also get your doggie's nails trim that might help as well lol. If that does NOT work then try a trainer he still young actually very and can still learn. Good Luck.

workingdog · 01-12-2007, 06:08 PM

For starter's keep the puppy and baby apart. Puppies bite. I'm sure the puppy knows no difference between a 15 month and a grown up at this point.

noegirl330 · 01-12-2007, 06:09 PM

HI!!MINE IS 2

Curbside Prophet · 01-12-2007, 06:11 PM

The Bite Stops Here Live this! And keep your daughter away from him until he learns some manners. Enroll in a puppy obedience school too.

Leila12345666 · 01-12-2007, 06:12 PM

But i believe most puppies do this. I agree keep your daugther away untill he learns whats good and whats not.

FranMan · 01-12-2007, 06:24 PM

http://www.leerburg.com/podcasts/puppiesthatbite.mp3

http://www.leerburg.com/pdf/preventi...inchildren.pdf

capm · 01-12-2007, 08:10 PM

You have got some serious questions to answer and QUICKLY!

First and foremost is Do you have time to manage a puppy AND a toddler?

Second is Do you want to risk your child growing into an adult with serious canine-phobia?

Separating the dog from the child is a no-brainer. The real question is the distance between them!

If the child has claw marks and bite marks you're risking felony charges of child endangerment depending on what state you live in. If the dog has an issue with being separated from the child he/she could seriously injure the child if he/she gets to the child. The dog could end up being destroyed and your child's life (and face) could be changed forever!! Geez wake up!!! Put your child's welfare FIRST!

FranMan · 01-12-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by capm

You have got some serious questions to answer and QUICKLY!

First and foremost is Do you have time to manage a puppy AND a toddler?

Second is Do you want to risk your child growing into an adult with serious canine-phobia?

Separating the dog from the child is a no-brainer. The real question is the distance between them!

If the child has claw marks and bite marks you're risking felony charges of child endangerment depending on what state you live in. If the dog has an issue with being separated from the child he/she could seriously injure the child if he/she gets to the child. The dog could end up being destroyed and your child's life (and face) could be changed forever!! Geez wake up!!! Put your child's welfare FIRST!

I'd be a little easier on breaking out the "felony charges" unless you are a lawyer. You do raise some very good points as no one should be letting a pup hurt a baby.

Leila12345666 · 01-12-2007, 10:38 PM

I agree i say you find the pup a good home right now when he is young and find your daughter a much smaller puppy. I believe a Shih Tzu will be perfect not to small and great with kids. If you wanted a good dog for her i dont think you made the right choise.

mijmils5 · 01-12-2007, 11:16 PM

i suppose the choice of words i used earlier weren't the best ones i could have come up with. let me just make a few things clear...Thank you to all of you who only had kind words of advice to give us, and to those who were absolutely hateful, you were completely out of line!!! i didn't feel the need to explain my entire situation because i wasn't even sure if i'd get any responses. i just wanted to hear if other people had gone through the same situation or not. to be exact, my daughter only has 3 or 4 minor scratch marks on her and the real problem is just that neither of them know any better and both want to play and sometimes the puppy gets a little too rough. AS WITH EVERY PUPPY!!! i do seperate them most of the time actually but when they do play it's almost inevitable to not get one or two scratches. they both have nails that you can only cut so short! and as for my daughter's "welfare"??? she lives in a very clean, beautiful, loving home with a very loving family and her "welfare" is better than some children i know! we have a chihuahua/minpin who is very layed back and relaxed, who LOVES playing with our daughter. this dog is just more hyper than we had antisipated. i'm sure it's just a phase that he'll grow out of b/c he's a very sweet little dog. all puppies teeth and love to bite and if i miss one or two scratches, i doubt i'll be charged with a "FELONY"!!! who says that anyway? what do you think we're doing, letting the puppy bite her face off? and claw her her entire body??? and CAPM, if you can tell me that you've never been scratched by a puppy, you're a liar! i didn't post a question on here to be ridiculed. i'm glad that the first i've ever visted this forum i get jerks on here who think they know everything!

Curbside Prophet · 01-13-2007, 12:40 AM

I don't get it either. I'm not quite sure exactly what you said that made people dive off the deep end. I'm sorry you had to bare this...I assure you it's not typical. Maybe the poster had a terrible expereince happen to them and over reacted...maybe.

DogAdvocat · 01-13-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Leila12345666

I agree i say you find the pup a good home right now when he is young and find your daughter a much smaller puppy. I believe a Shih Tzu will be perfect not to small and great with kids. If you wanted a good dog for her i dont think you made the right choise.

Do you understand the concept of lifetime commitment? Or are you just one of those that dump a dog because a problem comes up and go get another dog, until a problem comes up with that one and dump it too?

And please don't advocate small breed puppies for small children. They are just too fragile and the toddlers don't know their own strength. Can you even imagine what toddler shoes could do to small breed puppy paws?

workingdog · 01-13-2007, 01:43 AM

Believe me there is a lot of people that have young kids and a puppy. No need to get rid of the puppy. The puppy is just being a puppy and your 15 month old is just being a 15 month old. The puppy will out grow the biting and the 15 month old can learn how to treat a puppy/dog. They can grow together, with supervision. It just takes common since.

mijmils5 · 01-13-2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by workingdog

Believe me there is a lot of people that have young kids and a puppy. No need to get rid of the puppy. The puppy is just being a puppy and your 15 month old is just being a 15 month old. The puppy will out grow the biting and the 15 month old can learn how to treat a puppy/dog. They can grow together, with supervision. It just takes common since.

i definitly agree with you. that was the point i was trying to get across! i'm glad somebody else feels the same way i do! like i said, it's inevitable to not get a scratch or two when playing with a puppy ya know? ESSPECIALLY when it's a puppy and a 14 month old! and they are both slowly learning. she's starting to understand now when we say "be nice", and show her to pet him and not just hit him. we'll get over this little bump in the road soon! again, thanks for your comment!

Leila12345666 · 01-13-2007, 09:23 AM

Umm actullay im NOT one of those dump the pup people. But if you CANT do anything else to the dog, you cant get help or a trainer, you wont train or help him yourself what else is there to do? Leave him to do whatever and growp up to be whatever? I mean she sure is busy with her baby who is training the puppy? She even said that all puppies go trough it and it will go away by itself, well guess what IT WONT. You need time and commitment to train a puppy. So yeah if he does NOT have a future there where else CAN HE GO? A loving home would be the best. And about the other puppy was an example comparing both dogs. So DONT take it the wrong way.

Ill tell you this... I once had a puppy he was 9 weeks old when we got him. By 3 months he has bitten my sister on her face with his little stupid play bite (that she says all puppy go trough and it will go away by itself, all puppies go trough teething most i know NEVER play bite). Never correcting him was the biggest mistake ive ever made! He grew up to be such a horrible dog by 1 he ad bitten over 10 people making them bleed and leaving ALL of them scars, including when he got out of the house and bit an older man around 55 that was horrbile! So what if there is no help? After that he was gone to the shelter to be put down i dont care anymore i was NOT risking a small child. Yeah i felt bad for him before a 24 hour period i picked him up, i felt horrible! Two weeks later he was gone for good.

So i guess this is what happends when you DONT have enough time to train a puppy? I know i MADE A HUGE MISTAKE and thats why i wont make it again. I train Nena all my self now she is a sweetheart and allowed to play with my 2 year old nephew.

Leila12345666 · 01-13-2007, 09:25 AM

PS: And Terriers are rough!

mijmils5 · 01-13-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Leila12345666

Umm actullay im NOT one of those dump the pup people. But if you CANT do anything else to the dog, you cant get help or a trainer, you wont train or help him yourself what else is there to do? Leave him to do whatever and growp up to be whatever? I mean she sure is busy with her baby who is training the puppy? She even said that all puppies go trough it and it will go away by itself, well guess what IT WONT. You need time and commitment to train a puppy. So yeah if he does NOT have a future there where else CAN HE GO? A loving home would be the best. And about the other puppy was an example comparing both dogs. So DONT take it the wrong way.

Ill tell you this... I once had a puppy he was 9 weeks old when we got him. By 3 months he has bitten my sister on her face with his little stupid play bite (that she says all puppy go trough and it will go away by itself, all puppies go trough teething most i know NEVER play bite). Never correcting him was the biggest mistake ive ever made! He grew up to be such a horrible dog by 1 he ad bitten over 10 people making them bleed and leaving ALL of them scars, including when he got out of the house and bit an older man around 55 that was horrbile! So what if there is no help? After that he was gone to the shelter to be put down i dont care anymore i was NOT risking a small child. Yeah i felt bad for him before a 24 hour period i picked him up, i felt horrible! Two weeks later he was gone for good.

So i guess this is what happends when you DONT have enough time to train a puppy? I know i MADE A HUGE MISTAKE and thats why i wont make it again. I train Nena all my self now she is a sweetheart and allowed to play with my 2 year old nephew.

I actually have pleanty of time to take care of my child and train a dog. by me saying that it's just a phase (which it is), doesn't mean i'm not doing anything about it! and i'm not really sure why you compared not correcting your pet with me b/c we do repremand him. we're training him. we dont just let him get a little too rough, sit back and say oh well. that would be rediculas! no wonder your dog bit over 10 people! without any form of punishment, most dogs would grow up to be the same way! i'm glad you decided to actually train this new pet you have. it would be a shame to have to put down 2 dogs b/c it's owner didn't think they needed to be trained correctly.

Leila12345666 · 01-13-2007, 10:20 AM

Umm trust me if you compare where both of the dog came from then you would realize their lifestyle. The other dog was dumped in a vaccant lot actually we passed by saw him with his other sibling. Next day we went again and his sibling was gone so we decided to pick him up. He was a Chow/GSD mix. Weight only 49lb and he was evil. Where Nena came from is NO place like that. Ill keep that in mind, Nena is such a sweetheart NEVER even bit anyone either actually.

FranMan · 01-13-2007, 10:27 AM

One thing I will say if people get on the internet, find a forum, sign up, and then post questions.... Well they ARE trying to work with their dog.

I remember 3-4 months ago when I first got my rotty. I was not planning on getting a rotty and didn't have any idea of them other then they normal "it is going to turn on you". But the dog needed a home and the beagle wasn't really cutting it for me, great for the kids tho. My neighbor was willing to take the rotty if I ended up not wanting him. So I did want mijmils5 did and found a forum to ask questions after I read a couple of rottweiler information sites. I ended up at rottweiler.net and let me tell I got blasted. People saying I wasn't willing to work with the dog and should give it back to the breeder or a rescue. They ended up making me mad enough I left the site and found another Rottweiler site with lots of helpful friendly people. Which worked out until a mod and I disagreed. He felt I should respect him just because he was a mod. He was a jerk to me and I returned the favor. Doesn't work out so well when they have the ban button

So now I am here. Curbside Prophet seems like a fair and respectful mod, two of the best people from the rottweiler site are here also and their are a lot other smart and helpful people.

What my long winded point is that tearing in to the new guy is just going to drive them away and there are plenty of other sites they can go to. It is much easier to get the point thru without bashing. That just puts the defense up on the new person. Would you scold a new dog you just brought in to your home??

Here was my first post asking for help.
http://www.rottweiler.net/forums/gen...-new-dogs.html