selling pupies is wrong

Ibizan · 11-23-2006, 10:55 PM

Buddy, without money, people wouldn't have dogs. Many people never would have acquired dogs. You need to do a lot of research into the dog world, and into human ethics, before stating the things you said in your original post.

tirluc · 11-23-2006, 11:25 PM

i think these kids need to go to bed......and Buddy, you got your dog from someone who's dog just got caught by who knows what it seems and now you are throwing out more pups by letting Buddy be a dad to who knows what female.....don't you realize how many dogs get killed each day b/c of this stupidity?

tirluc · 11-23-2006, 11:28 PM

kids, go read the post i put on earlier "THE BREEDING ISSUE (HIS NAME IS SAM) a few post down from here......maybe it'll open your eyes to a major problem in this world......

Buddy · 11-23-2006, 11:29 PM

umm first of all the pups are being born from my bros friends golden retriever and if it were my choice i wouldnt sell a single last one!!! so i care more about dogs than probly anyone else on this site ok

Ibizan · 11-24-2006, 12:10 AM

Buddy, if you cared more, you'd have had your dog neutered.

Like I said, do your research before you spill anything.

skelaki · 11-24-2006, 03:39 AM

I am not a breeder, but I'm going to make a few points here.

1. People tend to not appreciate things they get for free. A free pup is very likely to end up in a bad situation such as in a lab or as bait for training fighting dogs.

2. It's a good thing when a dog is able to do what it was bred for (with some exceptions, such as dog fighting or bull baiting, of course).

3. Proper breeding costs money. There are stud fees, vet care, health clearances, food for the bitch, and the pups once weaned. There are also show and/or trial fees to prove the bitch is worthy of being bred.

4. Even Shelters and rescue groups charge for the pups and dogs they rehome. This is partly because they are aware of the dangers of giving animals away and partly because they have to recover at least a portion of their costs in order to keep doing what they're doing.

5. If you can't afford to pay something for a pup, how will you be able to pay for it's ongoing upkeep, including, vet bills, food and possibly professional training?

Sawyer · 11-24-2006, 08:44 AM

I think you might be on to something...free puppies...free pet supplies...free groceries...free house...free electricity...free car...free gas...free medical care...
I'm in! You guys work out the details and then let me know where to sign up!

tirluc · 11-24-2006, 09:31 AM

hey, Sawyer, i'm right behind you......

Booga · 11-24-2006, 10:16 AM

I know everyone has different opinions, and I don't hold anything against others who want to do that. Personally, I won't do it. Some people thought I was absolutely insane because the Siberian Husky I adopted is purebred with papers and I had him neutered.

Ibizan · 11-24-2006, 02:05 PM

Booga, I dont think you're insane at all!!

Buddy · 11-24-2006, 02:07 PM

lol but he isnt insane

Snowshoe · 11-24-2006, 05:50 PM

Hrmmm...
Buddy, I think you are smart, but also very young. You will change your mind about a million times about a million things as you get older.

Its all good and well to say that selling puppies is wrong; however, its a way of life for some people. I think that you are upset because you don't want to see the puppies go. Understandable! They're very easy to get attached to! They're cute, cuddly, innocent, and most of all adorable!

Really though, those puppies will grow up quickly to become large dogs (Goldens, right?) It will be difficult enough to care for ONE puppy (trust me, I know), but to care for an entire large litter for their whole lives? Wow...can you imagine walking every single dog every day? How much food it would cost for one family to feed nine full grown dogs? Plus, the vet bills would be outrageous.

That is why only people who REALLY love and know alot about dogs should breed dogs. These are the kinds of people who can devote their whole lives to bettering a paricular breed of dog. Can you imagine that? These are called "hobby breeders." They (probably more then anyone else) love their breed, and know what questions to ask potential puppy buyers.

Plus, most people don't really know enough about dogs to breed them. That is why pet dogs (dogs that are not shown, or dogs that do not do field work) should be spayed and neutered.

Spaying your pet will make them live longer, and I don't know ANYONE who doesn't want their pet to live longer, right?

Well, take care and good luck with the litter.

Buddy · 11-24-2006, 05:56 PM

lol no i wont

Snowshoe · 11-24-2006, 06:03 PM

Hrmmm...

Buddy · 11-24-2006, 06:05 PM

when i say something i mean it

drfong · 11-25-2006, 12:38 AM

Buddy, you may mean it but half of what you say isn't even understandable. Is your brother selling puppies and you think that is wrong?

Pitbull · 11-25-2006, 01:55 AM

Just because you buy a dog from a breeder that has papers, it doesn't mean JACK about the actual "purity" of the breed dog you purchased, or about the breeder...

Good breeders do charge money..and there's nothing wrong with that...they need to pay the expenses of having a litter in the first place....and it shouldn't concern anybody here anyways, as most of us wouldn't even qualify for a puppy that comes from a truely reputable, responsible breeder...they have health testing certificates/guarantees, detailed, long, contracts...house checkups...neuter policies...some even have show policies..if you're not going to show or have your dog do what it was originally bred for, then don't even bother showing up to look at the litter...good breeders have people on waiting lists for YEARS..not just two or three years...five or six!

Good breeders are rare..VERY rare...they breed for the BETTERMENT of the breed...not vice versa...if they charge money...its a good thing..it prevents some shmuck from picking up a free dog...I used to work in a shelter that was extremely irresponsible..I don't work there anymore for the reason that they had days where they would give away free dogs and cats....the amount of times those animals ended up in cruelty/neglect situations was incredible...people got them for free...so they thought that the rest of the animals life was going to be free...didn't expect to pay for medical care, proper good food, training, etc....we actually had homeless people coming into the shelter and leaving with cats...can you believe that? Don't you think that if there was a price to pay for these animals, it wouldn't filter and screen out these types of people? OF course it would..so don't sit there and tell me that good breeders are evil because they charge money for their pups.

see my point?

atldoglover · 11-27-2006, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelaki

I am not a breeder, but I'm going to make a few points here.

1. People tend to not appreciate things they get for free. A free pup is very likely to end up in a bad situation such as in a lab or as bait for training fighting dogs.

2. It's a good thing when a dog is able to do what it was bred for (with some exceptions, such as dog fighting or bull baiting, of course).

3. Proper breeding costs money. There are stud fees, vet care, health clearances, food for the bitch, and the pups once weaned. There are also show and/or trial fees to prove the bitch is worthy of being bred.

4. Even Shelters and rescue groups charge for the pups and dogs they rehome. This is partly because they are aware of the dangers of giving animals away and partly because they have to recover at least a portion of their costs in order to keep doing what they're doing.

5. If you can't afford to pay something for a pup, how will you be able to pay for it's ongoing upkeep, including, vet bills, food and possibly professional training?

ITA- Couldn't have said it better myself

pupskersandhutch · 11-27-2006, 01:45 PM

Buddy, you are a smart individual and that's cool you think that selling your pups is wrong I thought the same way when my cat would have kitttens. When you get older unfortunatley you WILL change just like the seasons of weather!. But I agree that breeders should not just sell their dogs to just ANYONE!!!! to make money that is wrong!!!

. Also I think that anyone who is not a licensed breeder should have their dog fixed I belive that it should be a law. Also I think that people should have a license to own a dog .It's like owning a car and selling a car you have to got through certain procedures I belive should be the same way for dogs/cats etc:

dixie · 11-27-2006, 05:10 PM

they do have to sell them