pharoh hound/pit?

Honeyshuman · 11-20-2006, 01:38 PM

Okay! I am getting so many negative looks and reactions from people around here! People I run into think she is a pitbull. But I think she is more pharoh hound.
What do you think? (not that I am not for pitbulls, it's just that Denver has outlawed pitbulls in the city limits). I have always been against outlawing any breed of dog..it is called owners not being responsible for their dog!
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blackgavotte · 11-20-2006, 02:10 PM

Hi ! She is gorgeous what ever she is. The fact is, no one will ever know, not without DNA testing. If she were mine, I'd be saying she is a Pharoah- Lab, or an Ibezan-Lab. That would satisfy most people, if there is Lab there that could account for the heavier, broader build, and also would help in your arguement, because of the colour, and it would get them off your back re the pitbulls. Then I'd be sticking to my guns on that story forevermore. And who knows, it could absolutely be true !

Ibizan · 11-20-2006, 02:14 PM

Unless Pharoahs are prominent in your area (which isn't too likely) then there's probably none in her. They aren't a very common breed and the breeders that do have them are pretty responsible people.

If you're just going on the ears and color for your reason of thinking she's a Pharaoh..I've seen plenty of Pits that colour, and plenty that had flimsy upright ears that made them look like bats. She doesn't have much on her that could be mistaken for sighthound. But perhaps you could stick to a solid story of "Lab/Terrier". That seems to be a pretty common one.

blackgavotte · 11-20-2006, 02:26 PM

Yes, its not highly likely she has either Pharoah or Ibezan, but using those terms could get people off her back as to the pitbulls at least if its an area where they are banning, or insisting on muzzles, or whatever, that was my thinking. In some areas its tough to own a pit cross nowadays, and the dialogue may well go on all the dog's life.

Honeyshuman · 11-20-2006, 04:59 PM

ok, ok, so you don't think Colorado has pharaoh hounds!

I didn't think so either - but that was what the shelter had labelled her!
So, I have been looking around at different breeds -she really could have some whippet, (I know, I'm reaching!, far removed) but she is just doesn't really have the body of a pit..anyway, I found a picture...could be close..
I know, I'm obsessing! But I would like to be able to give her an 'identity'...
There is a whippet rescue that I found in Colo Springs, which is about an hour south of Denver..and she was at the Buddy Center in Castle Rock..which is about 20 mins from Colo Springs....am I getting warmer?

NewfCrazy · 11-20-2006, 05:13 PM

I don't think its out of the realm of possibility that she is part Pharaoh hound. These mixes are labeled as pharaoh hound mixes on petfinder, and some of them look pretty close to her.
http://search.petfinder.com/search/s...ct=1&preview=1

Of course, it's never easy to tell what breed(s) a mutt is - especially if the parents were both mixes.

I don't blame you for wanting to define a breed, especially if you are living in BSL country!

Honeyshuman · 11-20-2006, 05:21 PM

BSL? probably something that should be obvious to me...

NewfCrazy · 11-20-2006, 05:25 PM

Breed Specific Legislation

Honeyshuman · 11-20-2006, 05:32 PM

ur right! That li'l Versache looks an awful lot like Ginger!

NewfCrazy · 11-20-2006, 05:49 PM

I know Pharaoh's aren't a very common breed, but it doesn't mean that she isn't one. I doubt if all those dogs on petfinder are actually identified correctly either, but it could give you a bit for comparison.

Honeyshuman · 11-20-2006, 06:09 PM

Thanks, you are very helpful to have looked them up. I checked out whippets too...'we've come up with some pretty creative identifications!
Well, all that makes me feel a bit better...at least we're not the only ones out there claiming to have a pharaoh hound mix! :-)

blackgavotte · 11-20-2006, 06:13 PM

I agree, just because Pharoahs and Ibezans are not common, does not mean she doesn't have any of that in her. Its just less likely, but not impossible. Which is why I think you should just decide what she looks and acts more like, and then just stick to that, the fact is you may never know. Its so hard, with a picture, to say for sure... is that her also with the bunny? In that pic, if that's her also, her head looks much more refined and long than in the other pics, and I feel she has enough leg under her and a refined body enough that she could have some sort of sighthound somewhere.

There is a little dog three doors down from me, who looks exactly like a long haired daxi. Seriously, only the head is just a tad broader than the usual, but he could pass. Turns out he is a corgi-spaniel cross. The owner knows for sure, she knew both parent dogs.

Does your girl love to run and run? Does she have a " racy " look to her? She looks a bit heavier than the purebred hounds. That's why you could say sighthound-lab and probably be okay with that. The average person doesn't know a lot about any of the sighthounds anyway. Let 'em prove she isn't.

Ibizan · 11-20-2006, 06:19 PM

Referring to the picture of her curled up, in that one, she looks more whippet than anything. (If she is, watch her drive!) Wihppet/Lab looks pretty promising, but as others have said you may never know.

Honeyshuman · 11-20-2006, 06:33 PM

the one on the right, with the bunny was the whippet; I just thought she is kinda lookin like that body type as well.
I think she fits (Ginger) in size to both the ph and the w..about 22-25"
I haven't been out running with her as yet...but she has alot of energy and they tell me, at the DDC, that she is just as happy as can be, running hither and yon with the other dogs..no agression (sp?) in her at all. She looks pretty racey to me, she is so streamlined.
I've finally managed to get some weight on her, but I'll bet she isn't over 40lbs yet.
I'm sure u r right..about them knowing anything about sight hounds. I will just have to decide on what to call her and get on with it! and get use to the sceptical looks, y'know, with the eyebrow raised ....
:-))

blackgavotte · 11-20-2006, 06:53 PM

Why not invent your own name for her? Heck, the designer dog breeders get away with it ! She could be an American Sighthound Mixtus... or an Ancient Blended Courser... or an Egyptian Mixtus ... I think that would be fun ! I bet some other members could come up with some dandy names to make the questioner's eyes pop out...I can hear them now when you tell them what she is... " ooooooooh, wow ! "

Honeyshuman · 11-20-2006, 07:37 PM

LOL! That's Great!!

We'll have fun trying to come up with something other than "Heinze 57" or mutt!

Ibizan · 11-20-2006, 08:01 PM

Copernicus Sighthoundicus Terrier Mixtonomy.
Has a nice long ring to it. :P

Honeyshuman · 11-21-2006, 12:36 AM

hey, I can't even pronounce that one! :-)) CSTM for short!

NewfCrazy · 11-21-2006, 12:26 PM

And what do you want to bet that you'd have people say, "Oh yeah, my cousins brothers wife has one of those!" LOL

I personally like the Ancient Blended Courser.

Honeyshuman · 11-22-2006, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewfCrazy

And what do you want to bet that you'd have people say, "Oh yeah, my cousins brothers wife has one of those!" LOL

I personally like the Ancient Blended Courser.

Hey, yeah, I do too...ABC for short! "-)

just for info, I was reading up on the ph's, she seems to have some of their characterics - she has a thin coat..pink flesh underneath...even tho her nose or eyes are not that of the hound, she has have pink under the dark around her mouth. and she grooms like a cat, whenever she gets 'settled on the couch'!, that's all I can remember off the top of my head. (Since I read that several days ago).
Anyway...
Y'all have a great Thanksgiving, if I don't get back here..
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