[Lorina]

Don't take it personally if I find it idiotic to pay hundreds of dollars for a mixed breed dog. I know people who think I'm idiotic for paying the adoption fee I did for my dog. What they think doesn't matter, because I know I did what I felt was right for my situation. You obviously did the same. You did what you felt was right for your situation.

You're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to mine. Just because someone does something I find idiotic doesn't mean I think they're an idiot. I do idiotic things all the time. I just sprained my ankle imitating my dog's waddling walk.

[DoggieLover]

I'm not in any way an expert on dogs or anything dog-related. As I mentioned in my earlier post, my puggle is my very first dog, so I have a lot to learn! However, I did do a ton of research on dogs before making my decision as to what kind to get and which breeder to buy from. To me, the puggle breeder seemed friendly and reputable because she thoroughly answered all of my questions (and trust me, I had a bunch of questions!), provided regular updates on the puppies, made sure that I had all the info I needed about puppy care and training in general, provided vet references and also references from past satisfied buyers. She also asked me a bunch of info about my situation to make sure that I was ready to welcome a new puppy into my home, had me sign a health contract, and informed me that she would gladly take the dog back if for any reason I was no longer able to care for him. Both of the puggle's parents (pug and beagle) are AKC registered.

She seems like a wonderful, caring breeder to me - I checked out her references and everyone had nothing but positive things to say about their dogs and their experience with her. This is why I used the word "reputable" when describing her but then again, I'm far from an expert on dogs, dog breeders, and the like. I don't know what other qualities I should have looked for to ensure a reputable breeder but I am extremely satisfied with her and would gladly recommend her to anyone looking for a puggle.

Now some of you may say that anyone who is breeding puggles in the first place shouldn't be considered reputable but obviously there is a demand for them (the breeder that I went through has a waiting list for puppies) just as there is a demand for schnoodles, labradoodles, and maltipoos as well as pugs, beagles, chihuahuas, etc etc. The breeder that I went through also breeds pug puppies and did so exclusively for years, until she decided to start breeding puggles as well due to the high demand. The pug puppies actually cost a lot more than what I paid for my puggle, since they are purebreds. In fact, when I was doing research on chihuahuas, I was planning to pay $1,000++ for a sweet-tempered puppy from a reputable breeder so maybe that's the reason why the $700 that I paid for my puggle doesn't seem so outrageous! I was able to use the extra $ that I saved for toys, food, supplies, etc.

Another point I want to make about my situation is that again, this is my very first puppy and my experience with dogs is very limited so that's why I wanted to purchase a sweet-tempered, friendly puppy from a caring breeder who would make me feel comfortable to ask any questions throughout my puppy's life. It was also important for me to know that the puppy's parents both have good temperaments, so this is why a dog from the shelter would not have been optimal for my situation. I was terrified of dogs when I was younger due to a bad experience with one...I have since grown out of this fear for the most part but still...finally buying a dog is kind of like a step towards facing a fear for me, in a way. So I definitely didn't want to take any chances with a dog from a shelter just because of this. Once I have more experience with dogs and am ready to get a friend for my puggle, the shelter is the first place that I'm planning to turn to. I know that there are a lot of sweet, well-mannered dogs at shelters but on the other hand, I have also heard many negative stories about shelter/rescue dogs being more difficult to train, having behavior issues, etc and I'm sorry but that is just something that I'm not comfortable with or ready to deal with at this point in my life!

Believe me, I did research on many of the small/toy purebred breeds but ended up ruling them out for one reason or another...many of them are yappy, chase or don't get along with other animals (I have a rabbit, a chinchilla, and a bird so I needed a dog who wouldn't chase or terrorize them! Therefore all terriers are pretty much out of the question), or don't get along with children or strangers. I actually prefer the personalities of larger dogs, but it would be cruel of me to get one as I live in an apartment and don't have a fenced-in yard. That's the reason why I needed a small dog who wasn't a barker (don't want the neighbors complaining).

Anyway, long story short, those are the reasons why I decided that a mixed-breed puggle would be the best dog for my situation at this time. I realize that some of you may disagree with my decision, and you totally have the right to your own opinion. However, I just wanted to let you know that I am extremely happy with my new puppy - he's everything that I wanted and more! So I'm really glad that all of the time spent doing research paid off. I guess my final point is that there are ideal dogs for everyone, depending upon their temperaments and qualities. My perfect match just happened to be a mixed-breed, designer dog rather than a purebred, and I was willing to pay for the ideal companion, regardless of his breed (or mixed breeds, in his case). If anyone purchases a mixed/designer dog for the right reasons and finds that this little puppy is exactly what they were looking for (mutt or not), isn't that the most important thing?

Oh yeah, just wanted to add - I am definitely NOT planning to breed him! I'm going to get him neutered as soon as the vet says that he's old enough. Same goes for any dog that I adopt - they will definitely be neutered or spayed if they aren't already. I firmly believe in altering pets...dogs, cats, rabbits...whatever. If they live with me, they will be altered!

[Lorina]

If someone loves their dog, takes care of their dog, and is happy with their dog, that's way more important than how they got it.

But if someone is still in the "just looking" phase, I'm always going to try to sway them towards adoption.

[Snowshoe]

I feel like I need to say that it's not that mutts are inferior. That's not the point I want ANYONE who has come across this conversation to take.

Every dog can make a great pet, just depending on what you're looking for.

My reasons for not being a fan of the puggle are those health related. There are plenty of great dogs that are not what you'd term a "purist" dog. For example, the Alaskan Huskey, the Silken Windhound, and the AUSTRALIAN labradoodle

However, all of these dogs are bred for a purpose, which is why I'm comfortable hearing about them.

The purpose of the Alaskan Husky is to be the fastest sled dog, the Silken Windhound is to be a faster, longer haired sight hound; the Australian labradoodle was ORIGINALLY intended to be a guide dog to the blind and allergy ridden.

With the puggle, you have a contradictory mix of genetics- because you have a dog that wants to run all day, but that has breathing problems.

THAT's why I said that it's hard for me to believe that anyone who cares about a dog's welfare would breed such different dogs. Even as the poster just said, their breeder started breeding them to make money. Because the public wanted it.

Anyway, any dog can make a great pet. All dogs are equal in this arena. However, not every dog should be bred.

Dogs that aren't up to standard, or have health and temperment problems should not be bred.

[Curbside Prophet]

Paying hundreds of dollars for a mutt isn't a dog problem...it's a people problem. Until the critical mass of conscientious dog breeders becomes more than a minority, we're still going to have people who are concerned about the self-gratification of ego from producing a beautiful animal, a unique animal, a designer animal that translates into the sale of puppies and fadish prestige. Until all breeders recognize their ethical responsibility, genetic disease will continue to plague the dog community. The good news...most dog people agree that the people problem is infinitely solvable. Breeders can do their homework and breed genetically sound dogs...technology advancements can only make this more true. Buyers can do their homework and seek out breeders who care about producing healthy dogs. Both parties can take these actions if they want to...and to me, the line between a BYB and a reputable breeder isn't as narrow as some may suggest. The bad news...these are the two biggests "ifs" in dogdom. Sadly, BYB ethics are accepted by people because it is not the exception, and the dollars saved always seems to motivate people to find excuses for their choice. I don't know why people do that, I'm not sure if people will ever change...but what I do know is that the best breeding pratices should be the rule, and not the exception.

[Cassiepeia]

the Australian labradoodle was ORIGINALLY intended to be a guide dog to the blind and allergy ridden.

And now it's bred by backyard breeders and puppymills in Australia who sell to overseas buyers who think they're getting something reputable because it's "Australian". Don't be fooled. Although I'm sure there is one exception in a thousand, even Australian breeders of this mix are mostly disreputable.

Believe me, I did research on many of the small/toy purebred breeds but ended up ruling them out for one reason or another...many of them are yappy, chase or don't get along with other animals (I have a rabbit, a chinchilla, and a bird so I needed a dog who wouldn't chase or terrorize them! Therefore all terriers are pretty much out of the question), or don't get along with children or strangers. I actually prefer the personalities of larger dogs, but it would be cruel of me to get one as I live in an apartment and don't have a fenced-in yard. That's the reason why I needed a small dog who wasn't a barker (don't want the neighbors complaining).

I have a Chihuahua. He rarely barks, he's exceptionally friendly and always has been. I adopted him as an adult and socialised the heck outta him after I got him.

Dogs are a reflection of their owners and while some small dogs do bark more than larger dogs, this can generally be put down to lack of socialisation. Most toy dogs are 'watchdogs' which means they will alert you when something is amiss. If the dog is trained, exercised and well socialised (as all dogs should be) it is unlikely it will bark at 'normal' things.
Plus, it doesn't take much effort to teach the 'quiet' command.

Any dog can be raised and socialised with animals and people to accept them. It just takes some time and effort on the owners part. There are many people with small breeds (including myself) who's dogs get on well with other animals (my own dog is great with rodents, cats, birds and, of course, other dogs).
Although small breeds tend to be more wary of children, I know several Chihuahua owners who have Chi's that LOVE children and get on really well with them. The difference is that their owners took time to socialise them to children when they were young.

None of these excuses are good enough to exclude these small breeds. And all of these things you want to avoid can occur in all other dogs if you don't train and socialise properly.

Big dogs can live in small homes no problem, as long as you give them the appropriate exercise, but I understand why you wanted to avoid that.

Having said all that...I'm glad you have and are taking great care of your new dog now, regardless of it's mix.

Cass.

[DoggieLover]

What's a BYB?

From what I've heard, there are health and temperament breeding problems in purebreds as well, including inbreeding in golden retrievers, breathing problems in pugs as Snowshoe mentioned, etc. So regardless of the type of dog, it's always important to be aware of potential health problems and monitor your dog for any signs.

I haven't yet heard of any serious problems or complications arising from the pug/beagle mix of different temperaments that Snowshoe mentioned. If there are any puggle owners who have experienced any serious health risks, I would most definitely want to hear about it, as well as any tips on what a puggle owner can do to minimize any risks. From what I've read and observed, most puggles' snouts/noses are longer (like a beagle's) and not smashed in like a pug's so their breathing problems, if any, are minimal compared to that of a pug. Excerpt taken from a puggle site:

Puggles in general avoid many of the health problems associated with Pugs, such as with their eyes, joints, skin wrinkles, and susceptiblity to heat stroke. The longer nasal cavity (like Beagles) make it more tolerable to the heat and less likely to overheat while running in the summer.

However, since I am aware that pugs (my puppy's father) are susceptible to overheating, I am always going to be careful to monitor my dog during the hot summer months. Luckily in my area, the summertime is limited to 2-3 mths out of the year and the rest of the time, it's notorious for being cold/rainy.

Without any anecdotal stories or proof that puggle owners have indeed had serious health complications with their dogs due to their breeding, I am still on the fence about the whole matter since I have been presented with two conflicting viewpoints. I guess only time will tell, since the puggle is still relatively new. As a responsible owner, I fully intend to monitor my puppy for any signs of health problems or weaknesses and plan to take him to the vet for regular check-ups. There are certain health problems associated with any type of dog, whether it be purebred or mixed, so the only thing we can do is hope that no serious health problems plague our little friends, and take the best care of them that we possibly can.

All breeders obviously want to make money - they would not hand their puppies out for free or charge only $5. If there is a demand for a certain kind of dog, obviously more and more breeders will begin breeding it. My breeder's beagle and pug are both AKC registered and have wonderful temperaments, as evidenced by the sweet pup they produced. She has kept a couple of their puggle puppies as well, which are now full grown, and has not had any major health issues with them to date. It's clear to me that she loves all of her dogs, takes great care of them, and wants to make sure that all of her puppies go to good loving homes. These are all qualities that are important to me in a breeder. I firmly believe that if we were seeing serious health problems/complications in puggles due to their breeding, breeders like her would immediately stop regardless of how much money they were making. The fact is that nobody has actually witnessed a puggle with these kinds of serious health problems that could endanger his life. I certainly haven't so far - my little guy is as happy and healthy as can be.

[Curbside Prophet]

Originally Posted by DoggieLover

The fact is that nobody has actually witnessed a puggle with these kinds of serious health problems that could endanger his life.

That sounds like an opinion to me, it's certainly not a statement of fact. Do you think the bad genes just disappear when you cross two purebred dogs? Keep this in mind, when a purebred carrying a genetic defect is crossed with another breed or mixed breed, the "bad" genes do NOT "go away" even though they may not be expressed in the offspring. If crossed with another dog carrying the same defect, the offspring of that breeding will demonstrate the defect.

Responsible breeders try to identify genetic diseases their dogs might be carrying and to eliminate them by careful breeding. It is ironic, though not surprising, that their efforts to identify and weed out genetic problems have lead some to cry "look at all the genetic diseases purebred dogs have!" A moment's careful thought will lead you to the conclusion that mixed breeds carry the same harmful genes (their parents, or their parents' parents, were purebreds, after all). The differences are with some recessive disorders (though not all genetic defects) the disease is less likely to be expressed (though it can still be inherited by offspring), and you have lesser likelihood of ever identifying or eliminating any harmful genes your mixed breed may be carrying. Also, if you stop and think about it, many mixed breeds are simply not tested for most problems. When they get older and limp, it's just considered old age, although it could well be hip dysplasia. When they get older and start to go blind, it could be PRA, but the owners are unlikely to test for this. It's not that owners of mixed breeds are bad, by any means, but they are not looking for possible inheritable problems, either. So if you're looking for evidence, I'm sorry, the only evidence you'll ever get will be anecdotal...on either side of the problem. Unless you're Bill Gates, and I don't think even he could afford it, the cost for the evidence you need as proof is cost prohibitive.

[DoggieLover]

Dogs can have health problems regardless of breed (or mixed breed). I say we just agree to disagree on this subject as we obviously have differing viewpoints but it has been a good discussion. I googled "puggle health problems" and couldn't find information about known/proven health problems in puggles due to their breeding. However, I did find an article on puggles so I've included an excerpt:

Purebred dog breeders naturally have problems with these crossbreeds as many have spent a great deal of time and money perfecting the bloodlines of their breed and don’t like the attention these “mutts” are receiving. There is a widely held notion that these “mutts” are actually healthier than purebreds, which I have always believed. A cross between 2 breeds of any dog should eliminate genetic problems that may exist in either breed because 90% of genetic problems are recessive, meaning both parents must carry the abnormal gene.

If you want a better chance of having health problems with your dog then buy a purebred! If you want a pet that is unique and healthy then buy a puggle, or go to the local shelter and adopt.

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I also recently joined a puggle forum so I will make sure to ask the members if they've noticed any health problems in their puggles.

I will also post pictures of my little guy in the next few days, as soon as I can find my camera. He loves to play and is so full of puppy energy, but then as soon as he gets tired, all he wants to do is snuggle up to me. So cute!!

[Curbside Prophet]

Originally Posted by DoggieLover

Purebred dog breeders naturally have problems with these crossbreeds as many have spent a great deal of time and money perfecting the bloodlines of their breed and don’t like the attention these “mutts” are receiving. There is a widely held notion that these “mutts” are actually healthier than purebreds, which I have always believed. A cross between 2 breeds of any dog should eliminate genetic problems that may exist in either breed because 90% of genetic problems are recessive, meaning both parents must carry the abnormal gene.

If you want a better chance of having health problems with your dog then buy a purebred! If you want a pet that is unique and healthy then buy a puggle, or go to the local shelter and adopt.

I agree only with the last point about adoption, otherwise this exerpt is the classic explanation for the theory of first generation hybrid vigor. The resulting pups should not be bred though, since they'd have a good chance of having the recessives from BOTH breeds, so the grandpups would be inclined to be worse off than the purebred offspring of their grandparents. An excellent set of articles dealing with "hybrid vigor" can be found in DogWorld, Jan 1997 by George Padgett DVM. I doubt the author of the exerpt ever read Mr. Padgett's articles.

[Cassiepeia]

BYB = Backyard Breeder (someone who breeds irresponsibly, but on a small scale).

Bottom line is...if you breed an unhealthy dog to an unhealthy dog, you get unhealthy puppies. Sure a few pups might win the genetic lottery and come out unscathed, but litters usually have more than one or two pups. What of the others?

And why would a disreputable breeder (of either mixes or pures) who is only out for money tell you what problems they have? It's a business to them...if you're selling a product you don't go on and on about how many bad points the product has. That'd be stupid and bad for business.

Cass.

[peace36]

Originally Posted by Lorina

Don't take it personally if I find it idiotic to pay hundreds of dollars for a mixed breed dog. I know people who think I'm idiotic for paying the adoption fee I did for my dog. What they think doesn't matter, because I know I did what I felt was right for my situation. You obviously did the same. You did what you felt was right for your situation.

You're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to mine. Just because someone does something I find idiotic doesn't mean I think they're an idiot. I do idiotic things all the time. I just sprained my ankle imitating my dog's waddling walk.

Ok, I hear you. Yes, I definately have done my share of idiotic things. Hope your ankle feels better soon

[Lorina]

I don't know any pug mixes personally (ie, no friends or family members have one), but I can think of three offhand that I know through work or from the neighborhood. There's a puggle who lives about 3 blocks away who barks constantly, whether he's inside or out. There's a client's puggle who's a nasty little dude who needs to be muzzled for the vet to even examine. And I remember a pug mix (I don't remember what with, but not another flat-faced breed) who needed surgery at another hospital for breathing problems as a pup. I don't remember exactly, but I think his nasal passages were too narrow? He was a very sweet little dog, but cost the owner a small fortune in vet bills.

The problem I have with the Pug mix and Poodle mix and other "designer breed" descriptions is that they're all hype and advertisement. They make them out to be some kind of wonderdog with no behavioral or health problems. They're not.

I'm not saying they can't be wonderful pets. The smartest best behaved dog I know is my parents' terrier mix Chester, who was actually from a pet store. (My brother bought him, then lied to my parents and said he was from the SPCA so they wouldn't make him take it back.)

[Keno's Mom]

What REALLY bothers me - someone mentioned the fact that the "puggle" breeder also bred(breeds) pugs and decided to start creating MUTTS cause there was a demand for it.

IMO that is TOTALLY irresponsible as a breeder. And it makes me wonder just how good of a pug breeder this person was to start with. NO legit good breeder of a purebred sets out to create more mixed dogs because its a demand - they concentrate on their chosen breed and stick to it and make sure those dogs are healthy.

That really scares me - the irresponsibility!

[Snowshoe]

To be honest, I've met only two puggles. One did wheeze like none other, and the other one was really really shy.

The point I was making is that it's just a poor choice of genetics to combine. Sure, some people may think they're cute, but that doesn't make them healthy.

And to the poster who thinks that mixed breed dogs are healthier, I'd like to share a story:

A few months ago, the local shelter got in two labradoodle puppies. For those of you who don't speak designer dog, that's a mix of a labradore retreiver, and a poodle. Obviously, a mutt.

These two puppies came from the same litter, sold to the same lady, at the same time. I won't harp on the irresponsibility of this right now.

Anyway, one of the puppies was found to have a case of mild displasia in both hips.

That's right- a mixed breed dog had hip displasia in BOTH HIPS.

It depends on the individual genetics of the parents.

And, for anyone out there who believes that purebreds aren't as healthy as mutts, you are mistaken. If you take two purebred dogs of healthy lineage, you will get healthy puppies. Of course, nothing in life is a guarentee, but if you have a good breeder, they will stand by their dogs.

Again I will reiterate, it is up to the genetics of the individual parents. There is no such thing as hybrid vigor. It's a marketing ploy, just like that green M&Ms are suppose to better your love life, or that smoking Marlboro ciggies will make you a sexier woman, or a more manly man, or that your party will be more fun if you drink Budlight.

It's a cheap shot that doodle breeders use when they've run out of all other excuses to breed mutts and sell them for thousands of dollars to unsuspecting consumers.

I can't imagine how it would feel to pick out a puppy, become really excited about my new family member, and then be told that I made a bad decision by people I don't know on a community dog forum.

ESPECIALLY if I felt like I had done the time to reasearch the dog of choice.

So, I do understand where the lashing out is coming from. Just please keep in mind that none of us here have any reason to lie to you, or to feed you misinformation.

[Chloef_2799]

Doggielover - good for you that you are taking care of your puppy so well and I'm glad that you did do some research before you got your puppy.

Breeding dogs, even if you are a reputable breeder and you know all there is to know is a risk. I work with a lady who shows and breeds Boston terriers. She has bred her female (a great example of her breed and great show dog (don't know what she has won because I have never asked)) several times and the latest was to a tested and healthy dog (also a good example of the breed) who was owned by a vetrinarian who worked in the same office who has been showing and breeding bostons for 22 years now and all four pups were still born. No one knows exactly why, but these things happen. You never have an absolute 100% guarentee that nothing will go wrong even with healthy dogs. It is just better to know what you are doing and breed healthy dogs then to not know what you are doing and breed un-healthy dogs.
Any breeder will tell you there is no 100% never gonna happen garentee that all the puppies they will have will be 100% healthy dogs with no breed specific problems.

[DoggieLover]

Well hopefully I'll get lucky then and end up with a healthy guy. He seems really happy and healthy so far...no wheezing or anything after exercise or play, and he is eating all of his meals just fine. I'll keep you guys updated and let you know if I experience any problems down the road.

He doesn't bark much at all, just when he's super excited, and I'm working on keeping that to a minimum. He has nipped a few times during play but of course that's normal for a puppy and I'm working on controlling that behavior as well. Took him to the vet and he checked out fine, now just need to get all of his shots before I enroll him in puppy classes. He has settled in really nicely and is the sweetest, friendliest little guy. He has definitely stolen my heart!

And mutts or not, you have to admit that puggles are absolutely adorable!

[babydolwv]

Originally Posted by DoggieLover

Dogs can have health problems regardless of breed (or mixed breed). I say we just agree to disagree on this subject as we obviously have differing viewpoints but it has been a good discussion.

I think that would be a wonderful idea...lol so many ppl with different opnions/facts.... this thread could go on for days on end!! altho i agree with many many many points made here... not going to go into all that other than 1 thing.... the reason we have soooo many dogs in shelters... is because the owners didnt do there research... didnt really care to. just wanted a dog so when out and got one...didnt spend the time the dog truely needed to train it or even love on it... once the dog/pup wasnt new anymore it was boring... so they stop giving it attention. so what does that lead to?? a very missbehaving dog only cause it wants/needs attention... thats y so many dogs end up in the shelters... and yes i do think that alot off ppl say oh but i didnt think this dog would be like this... welll if someone takes the time to train/play with the dog... you can make the dog into anything you want it to be.... but you have to have the want to... i will be honest we did look into a few dogs and saddies breeds were not one that we really wanted as 1 terriers are very hyper dogs and 2 labs would be a bit bigger of a dog than we really wanted (i know there not huge!) but i saw her and i just could resist... i had to bring her home... and that was in november.... and she is doing great as of the moment... i will admit shes not show quality when it comes to commands... but i am proud of her and we still need to keep working with her about biting/nipping when she wants to play, but hey she is a pup in my opinion they are gonna play like that... but she no longer tries to chew on our furniture, is doing great with staying and lots of other commands, but i have taken the time to sit down and work with her... and in my opinion of more ppl would just sit down and take the time to train there dogs. no so many would end up in shelters or even do a little research on breeds... then they will know ahead of time when it comes down to temperment, allergies, size...even with a mixed breed... you can say ok this part gets this big and this part gets this big... and atleast say well my dog wont be but about this big... if you get what i am saying... like with saddie... she wont get any bigger than a lab would as a lab is bigger than a terrier, but then she could stay the size of a terrier, but either is fine with me.. .she is a great and wonderful dog... my little shadow!! ha ha.. i c so many qualities in her that come from both breeds and say ah well that must be the lab part in her (for example she loves water, thats where the lab comes in...and she gets very jealous of the cat and my mothers dog, that would be the terrier in her...) so as you can see i have done some research on the possiblities of what she will turn out like...but so far she is a wonderful dog and is begining to calm down abit... ha ha

[Chloef_2799]

Doggielover you sound like a TRUE doggie lover. Kudos to you and there should be more people like you out there who research and train their dogs properly as soon as they come into their new homes. Good for you.
Up until Chloe ALL of my dog were socailized, obedience trained and when I was much younger my dads old dog Leslie (a catahoula leopard dog) we even did doggie sports. The reason I didn't work with Chloe as much was because she was a rather ill-gotten project of mine I will admit. But I think in the end I did the right thing in helping out Chloe's parent's owner the way I did. I do regret not taking her to puppy classes or socializing her with other dogs but I was very nervous with her as I was used to having big dogs and treated her for the most part like she was made of austrian crystal, lol!!! She weighed 2.2 pounds when I brought her home for the first time and her sister Cayenne weighed in at a hefty 1.7 pounds!!!!

[vickitory_puppies]

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