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Old 10-11-2006, 04:33 PM   #1
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Dobermann or German Shepherd

well first of all,hello to everyone.and now my question.well i'm planning on buying a dog that would like to socialise,a dog that is smart,preferably good looking,strong,loyal and ready to defend an owner.two perfect dogs for this would be german shepherd or dobermann,right?so,i was wondering which dog is better for this role.also,i plan on keeping a dog in a flat,not a house but i will take it out very often.so which one is better ? btw. are dobermanns ears and tail being cropped for a reason or its just a tradition.i heard that with cropped ears there are less chances of infections and such stuff.thank you
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:35 PM   #2
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Since both Dobes and GSDs fit your above criteria, what about other things that you can use to compare them?

Here are some pros and cons I found on a website (Your Purebred Puppy, An Honest Guide to Purebred Dogs and Dog Breeds) to both breeds:
Doberman:
Pros:Is large and strong, yet sleek- and elegant-looking
Has a short easy-care coat
Thrives on exercise, athletic activities, and challenging things to do
Looks serious and imposing, so makes an effective deterrent even when friendly
Cons:
An extra careful search to avoid dangerous lines
Providing enough exercise to keep him satisfied
Rowdiness and exuberant jumping, especially when young
Aggression, sharpness, suspiciousness, or shyness when not socialized enough
Aggression toward other animals [mainly same sex dog aggression]
Emotional sensitivity to stress and loud voices
Physical sensitivity (tendency to react defensively when startled or mishandled)
Shedding
A multitude of serious health problems [but if you find a well bred dog, this shouldn't be a problem]
Legal liabilities (public perception, future breed bans, insurance problems, increased chance of lawsuits)

For the German Shepherd:
Pros:
Is strong, athletic, and natural-looking
Thrives on challenging activities and exercise
Looks stern and imposing, so makes an effective deterrent
Is exceptionally versatile -- when well-trained, can learn and do almost anything
Cons:
An extremely careful search to avoid all the bad-tempered and unhealthy German Shepherds [just find a good breeder or a nice shelter adult]
Vigorous exercise requirements
Rowdiness and exuberant jumping, especially when young
Destructiveness when bored or not exercised enough
Aggression or shyness toward people in some lines, or when not socialized enough
Aggression toward other animals [mainly male on male dog aggression. They are wonderful with family pets]
Chasing and nipping at things that move: children, joggers, other animals, bikes, cars
Constant heavy shedding
Legal liabilities (public perception, future breed bans, insurance problems, increased chance of lawsuits)
A multitude of serious health problems [just find a good breeder!]

For complete detail, click on the website and go to the breed reviews.

I don't think it matters where the dog lives, as long as you provide enough exercise. Both GSDs and Dobes need LOTS of exercise. You will need to channel the energy into competive obedience, jogging, and playing lots of fetch to keep the dogs calm and undestructive.

The cropped and docked look on dogs is complete for looks. The cropped ears don't prevent any ear infections. That is a myth. As a matter of fact, my neighbor's perk eared dog had two bad ear infections, while both of our floppy ear dogs haven't had any. You just need to keep the ears clean.
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You should be able to get a better "feel" for the temperment by speaking to the reputable breeder that you interview and choose. The breeder should invite you to meet the sire and dam, and discuss the exact qualities you are looking for and help you determine whether their dogs are right for you. Without speaking to the breeder and meeting the pups parents, you'll only be able to generalize between GSD or Dobi.
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I agree with Curbside, speak to a reputable breeder in your area. I'm not sure if it applies to GSD's, but I read in a magazine that if exercised often, Doberman's can benefit from a smaller home "territory".

Being a natural guarder/protecter, the less area to patrol, the less stress on the dog.
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how much time do you mean by "very often" as far as taking thet dog outdoors?

Either way, based on what you are saying, I would look for a breeder that specializes in show lines rather than working lines. The reason I mention it is because it sounds to me like you're more interested in aesthetics than performance, that and also, I'm not sure how much damage can a working line dog do to a flat if bored, but I'm almost certain that you wouldn't have much of a place left.
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Honestly, large dogs DO NOT belong is apartments! Especially such high energy, working dogs that you've mentioned. You should never get a dog for "protection", that just isn't fair to the dog. (I'm not being judgemental, don't get me wrong! )

I'm more for rescuing dogs, rather than "buying". So many shelter animals live their lives without homes. There are TONS of German SHepherds in shelters that you can find. Some are already trained, adults, puppies, you name it.
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Honestly, large dogs DO NOT belong is apartments! Especially such high energy, working dogs that you've mentioned. You should never get a dog for "protection", that just isn't fair to the dog. (I'm not being judgemental, don't get me wrong! )

I'm more for rescuing dogs, rather than "buying". So many shelter animals live their lives without homes. There are TONS of German SHepherds in shelters that you can find. Some are already trained, adults, puppies, you name it.
I completely agree. Ironically, most of the GSDs you'll find in shelters are there because they requiered more space/excercise/mental stimulation they were provided by their original owners, so in this particular case it would just be adding to the circle.
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