Okay, I had to bite at this one....bad me....*hits self on head*
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In the last 6 months I met and interacted with hundreds of dogs. The majority pit/lab whatever mix rescues, but also purebreds of all kinds as well as wolf hybrids and doodles.
I can say without hesitation that the doodles are consistently good tempered, non-aggressive, playful, happy dogs. One of the best choices for a pet compared to large purebreds.
Very few are surrendered to shelters, and the ones that are are immediately adopted.
While doodle breeders are not breeding to improve the breed, neither are 90% of purebred breeders. Unlike most purebred breeders, they are not harming a breed.
As they have little breeding potential to buyers they are almost always neutered.
First time dog owner who choose to buy a doodle have generally put more thought into their choice of dog then first time owners of purebreds.
Evey doodle a quality breeder sells is one less potential sale for a pet store, and first time dog owners are far less likely to give up their doodles then first time owners of many large purebreds.
They are not just mutts. From a quality breeder they are mutts with health tested good tempered parents.
Simple fact. Labradoodles are Golden-doodles are great dogs and the world is better off with them then without them.
You can climb back on you high horse now.
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"In the last 6 months I met and interacted with hundreds of dogs. The majority pit/lab whatever mix rescues, but also purebreds of all kinds as well as wolf hybrids and doodles.
I can say without hesitation that the doodles are consistently good tempered, non-aggressive, playful, happy dogs. One of the best choices for a pet compared to large purebreds."
In the past two years I've worked at a bording/grooming/vet's office. I've met quite a share of different dog breeds and mixes from all different backgrounds. (I actually met my first Afgan Hound the other day! It was totally cool.)
The 'doodles that I have come into contact with have not been any different than a normal dog, just with more hair. One 'doodle was so rambunctious that he almost bowled me over every time I stepped near him. Another also tried to bite me while I was bathing it. Other breeds and mixes have done each of those plenty of times as well. I've met perfectly well behaved dogs of every breed and mix, even those that have a bad rap (Chows for example). I've met some wonderful 'doodles. I've met some rotten 'doodles. I've met some wonderful Labs. I've met some rotten Labs. I've met some wonderful Bulldogs. I've met some rotten Bulldogs. I've met some wonderful Chihuahuas. I've met some rotten Chihuahuas.
Saying a doodle makes a better pet than another large breed dog is saying a Lab makes a better pet than any other large breed dog, or a Boxer/Lab mix is the best large breed dog, or a Saint Bernard is the best large breed dog, or....I could go on. My point is, no dog is the "best large breed dog" (except for my Lab of course!
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"Very few are surrendered to shelters, and the ones that are are immediately adopted."
Hm.
http://disc.server.com/Indices/213827.html http://www.poomixrescue.com/ http://search.petfinder.com/search/s...view=1&exact=1
Although, being surrendered to a shelter really has nothing to do with anything. I've met plenty of even tempered well adjusted dogs that were surrendered to a shelter with not fault of their own. Just the owner's fault. You don't really see Mastiffs or Bulldogs in shelters either, but that doesn't say anything about the dog. Just that they have a high price tag and people aren't as willing to throw them away like trash.
"While doodle breeders are not breeding to improve the breed, neither are 90% of purebred breeders. Unlike most purebred breeders, they are not harming a breed"
Yep, you are right, 'doodle breeders aren't hurting a breed persay. What they are doing is taking away the homes of, essentially killing, all of the mutts that were unfortunate enough to end up in a shelter. Thus it is with any unethical breeder - a reason we fight tooth and nail against them.
"As they have little breeding potential to buyers they are almost always neutered."
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People keep mutts intact all of the time (and not "pricey" mutts like the poodle mixes, but just plain ol' mutts). How do you think I ended up with my three dogs? And most of my neighbors' with their lovely mutts? How do you think you get the mixed breed momma being dumped at a shelter with her litter of ten mixed breed pups?
"First time dog owner who choose to buy a doodle have generally put more thought into their choice of dog then first time owners of purebreds."
Oh, yes, that's right, because my friend walking by the petstore window who sees a Maltipoo and falls in love and wants to go get it the next day really thought about what kind of dog she would be bringing into her home. Of course, my other friend just wants a Chow because they look like bears. Tons of people get a dog because they like how they look. My other friend just wants a Chihuahua to tote around in a purse. Then my other friend wants a 'doodle because they are fluffy. Not really any thought behind that.
"Evey doodle a quality breeder sells is one less potential sale for a pet store, and first time dog owners are far less likely to give up their doodles then first time owners of many large purebreds."
Logic is escaping me at the moment. Just because we have reputable breeders breeing GSDs, Weims, Rotties, Labs, and Basset Hounds doesn't mean I see them any less frequently in a petstore. In fact, our local petstore is supplied by "quality breeders" (BYBs), not a puppymill. Also, I would say more people would be prone to succumb to buying from a petstore when they realize how long it would take for a reputable breeder to have a puppy availible to a pet home.
"They are not just mutts. From a quality breeder they are mutts with health tested good tempered parents."
Yes, having a health test is always a good thing. I'm not going to go against that. Let me throw in a scenario here. Let's just say that Chloe, my beautiful, fuzzy, angelic (with a hint of demon), brown eyed, lovely Chloe, wasn't spayed. Let's also assume that she was health tested and passed all of her tests with flying colors (OFA, CERF, Vwd, heart, hearing, and everything else). She had agility titles, as well as her CGC and at least a CD in obedinece. Only one catch: Chloe is a Collie/Australian Shepherd mix. Would it be wrong to find a Collie, or an Aussie, that was also health tested and had some titles, and breed them and sell the pups for lots of money to loving homes?
YES. It doesn't come down to how good of a dog Chloe is, it comes down to the fact that I am breeding a mutt
for a family pet (key phrase there), when there are MILLIONS of healthy, even tempered mutts dying around states. I'm not trying to create a working dog, I'm not trying to establish a breed, I'm not trying to preserve a peice of history, I'm not trying to do anything but fill in a gap for a healthy, even tempered family pet when that gap is already overflowing!
"Simple fact. Labradoodles are Golden-doodles are great dogs and the world is better off with them then without them."
They may be great dogs. I've met some who were, some who weren't. I've met plenty who have filled the lives of their owners. My mutts are all great dogs. The Boxer in at the clinic right now looking for a home is a great dog. My life would be empty without my three furbabies and I thank God for them everyday. But then I go down to a shelter and hear the dogs crying, or I see the helpless looks in the eyes of dogs past that were killed because they didn't have a home.
'Doodles may be great dogs, but what about the great dogs that are just aching to have a home to love them, a home to hold them when they are sick, a home to care for them in their golden years, who want a home with children to romp and play with, who are killed by the thousands because this world has no room for them because of countless breeding practices? This doesn't just pertain to breeders of 'doodles, but all irresponsible breeders. I think of the plight our mutts and purebreds are in right now and my heart aches.
It doesn't come down to the fact that 'Doodles are good dogs, it comes down to the fact that so are countless others. It comes down to the fact of irresponsible breeding practices and the countless dogs being killed because this world has no room. I would pitch this same argument to someone wanting to breed their Corgi down the street because, "Corgis are just such good dogs, and she is healthy, and life would be so dull without them."
"You can climb back on you high horse now."
I'd much prefer a Welsh Pony, please.
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I did not get her from a BYB I got her from a reputible breeder in Australia
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Actually, is it my understand that the Australian Labradoodle and the one being the states are different? I was under the impression that the Australian Labradoodle was a work in progress to become a true breed, while the others are just mutts. However, I could be wrong.
