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01-13-2007, 01:43 PM
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#41 | | Junior Member
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| This is my Tessa so all you who don't like mixed breeds how could anyone resist this. |
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01-13-2007, 02:09 PM
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#42 | | Senior Member
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| Nobody said they don't like mixed breeds. Once a dog is born into this world, it needs people to love it and care for it, whether it's mixed or pure.
A lot of us just have a problem with breeding irresponsibly, and a lot of us feel breeding mixes is irresponsible. Nobody is angry with you or your dog. There is some anger towards her breeder, though. |
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01-15-2007, 11:54 AM
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#43 | | Member
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| Hi chrissy!
Welcome to the forum. Please don't feel that you aren't welcome here or that the members are trying to get rid of you. Alot of people are very passionate about dogs here, and about the welfare of dogs, and hence some people just get a little agitated when they hear something they don't agree with or isn't the norm amongst responsible dog owners. Please don't be offended...there are alot of great, intelligent people on here that want to help I guarantee you that.
Onto your issue. The dog you have is a mutt - not a purebred. I love mutts - most of us here do...they are wonderful dogs just like any other. I make no distinctions between the two except in terms of breeding. My suggestion is to never breed a mutt because of the inconsistency of the results. Purebreds have been around for generations - their genes have been controlled and bred for over and over again. A good breeder only breeds their dogs for the betterment of the ENTIRE breed as a whole...
responsible breeders will not put two seperate breeds together to create a litter....mutts have no confirmation standards..they cannot be compared to a perfect example because there is none. I'm sorry to dissapoint you, but the statement that mutts have better health than purebreds is a myth. When you are breeding mutts, nothing is guaranteed - not the look, not the health, not the temperament. The dogs cannot receive titles (which is very important when you are striving to be a responsible breeder)...
The only reason that your breed is "in demand" is because its a designer dog. People want it for the look and nothing more. The breed serves NO purpose that hasn't already been served by a purebred. This is wrong and unethical.
Again, I love mutts I think they are wonderful dogs...but they should not be bred when there are thousands upon thousands of dogs in shelters (both mutts and purebreds) waiting for a home because they were created by irresponsible backyard breeders and puppymills.
Therefore, if you ever do want another mixed breed dog in the future, I would strongly advise for you to check out a shelter or a rescue..they have specific MUTT rescue groups....like cockapoo rescue...or labradoodle rescue, etc..you can find the mutt you are looking for and KNOW that you didn't end up supporting something unethical and irresponsible.
If you do desperately want to buy from a breeder, please buy from a breeder that follows ethnical standards..that ensures proper health testing, has confirmation titles, is involved in rescue themselves, has a detailed contract outlining your duties and their own duties, etc.
Here is a list of what I believe a responsible breeder should encompass and nothing less. http://www.kateconnick.com/library/breeder.html
Good luck with your new pup. I'm sure it will be loved...I hope you do take the information I have provided with you to help you understand why some of the members here are against buying/breeding mutts.
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01-15-2007, 04:18 PM
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#44 | | Senior Member
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| Excellent post, Pitbull.  |
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03-08-2007, 06:04 PM
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#45 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
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| Hello, all. I am new to this forum, but I'm not new to dogs. I am active in conformation, showing my own dogs as well as client's dogs.
Anyways, my only purpose for being here is my desire to educate new/potential dog owners.
Chrissy, after reading thu the posts on this thread, I honestly have to say no one has attacked you or your dog. I sincerely hope your little one has a long and healthy life and that you will do the right thing and have her spayed.
Good Luck |
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03-08-2007, 10:58 PM
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#46 | | Super Moderator
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| I'm glad you've decided not to breed her... but for next time, I just want you to know that you could save a life - and a lot of money - by going to a rescue. There are many homeless peke-a-poos out there right now, because people keep breeding and breeding... Here are only a few: http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=7972575 http://www.poomixrescue.com/others.html#peekapoos http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=6843323 http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=7493841
I for one don't dislike mixed breeds - I have a Border Collie mix - and I'm sure you won't find anyone else on this forum who dislikes them. My problem is those homeless dogs up there. I am saddened every time I hear of a mixed breeding, because that's just more homeless dogs who will be put to sleep this year, due to lack of enough homes. I hope you understand. >o.o<
This said, good luck with your pup. Now that you have her, our main goal should be to help you bring her up the best we can. What's done is done.
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03-15-2007, 02:01 PM
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#47 | | Senior Member
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| I Tess. I know this is a little late but I just read the threads now. That was a pretty heated discussion, is it called a discussion when it is typed? Problably not but you know what I mean.
I think CP is alright. Just feels very strong about this topic. Some people have a nicer way of putting things than others. I really just think and I always say this , the problem is not the breeding in mutts or pure breeds but the people who do not keep thier dogs.. People should just keep thier dogs.
Anyway I really wanted to say I love peekapoos. THey are soo cute. I have a Malti-Poo. I actually love all those fluffy small breed dogs.
Congrats on Tess! Hope you did not leave the forum because of some of the responses you got here. It really is a great forum. |
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03-15-2007, 02:54 PM
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#48 | | Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by peace36 I think CP is alright. | Just alright?  Just kidding. I was pretty sarcastic to that person, but I've been called worse things.  |
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03-15-2007, 03:19 PM
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#49 | | Senior Member
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| LOL! Ok CP, You are Waay Cool  That is until you decide to unleash some of that sarcasm with me. He, he. |
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03-16-2007, 03:09 AM
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#50 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by chrissyofFL have you ever seen a peekapoo they are perfect for a family dog and also run more in cost than some of your full breds. she won;t have as many health problems as pure breds. | Mixed breeds are often wonderful companions, and it's no fault of theirs that they are here. But, if you really believe your statement that your Peekapoo won't have as many health problems as pure breds, you need to educate yourself, and recognize that you may be in for a rude awakening. ESPECIALLY if you breed your dog (and I certainly hope that you won't). Shelters and pounds are killing millions of these "designer dogs" because of problems with poor breeding, or just because they didn't live up to what the seller said they were (like the so-called labradoodles who "don't shed," yet do. Or, simply because their original owner was a jerk who wouldn't honor the committment s/he made when obtaining the dog.
Do you really believe that, by breeding a Peek and a Poodle you are going to magically produce puppies who are disease-free? Do some research, and I'm sure you will come to a different conclusion.
And, yes. Some unscrupulous people are breeding so-called designer dogs and charging lots of money for them. A fool and his money are soon parted.
BTW, your little Tessa is adorable.
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03-16-2007, 07:22 AM
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#51 | | Senior Member
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have you ever seen a peekapoo they are perfect for a family dog and also run more in cost than some of your full breds. she won;t have as many health problems as pure breds.
| Hah. Nice train of thought.
Rescue dogs also make perfect family dogs.
The cost of the dog in NO way will amount it to a dog who's been well bred by a responsible breeder.
The inheritance of structural problems such as hip dysplasia is complex and can multiply through the generations; thus mixed breed dogs are also potential victims. Unlike purebreds, mixed breeds are rarely if ever screened for genetic abnormalities, so there is no way to avoid the painful and expensive genetic diseases that plague pure bred dogs.
Posts like these only confirm our thoughts that "hybrid" dog buyers are very ill educated on the subject. |
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03-16-2007, 07:27 AM
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#52 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by chrissyofFL have you ever seen a peekapoo they are perfect for a family dog and also run more in cost than some of your full breds. she won;t have as many health problems as pure breds. |
When you buy a pekinese, you are aware of the health problems they are susceptible to. When you buy a poodle, you are also aware of the health problems they are susceptible to. When you buy a peekapoo or any other mixed breed dog you are getting a dog who has the ability to be susceptible to both the health problems of a pekinese and a poodle; therefore, you could have twice as many problems as a purebred....... |
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03-16-2007, 05:02 PM
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#53 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Ginny01OT When you buy a pekinese, you are aware of the health problems they are susceptible to. When you buy a poodle, you are also aware of the health problems they are susceptible to. When you buy a peekapoo or any other mixed breed dog you are getting a dog who has the ability to be susceptible to both the health problems of a pekinese and a poodle; therefore, you could have twice as many problems as a purebred....... | I never thought of it that way before. I think most people base the "mutts have less medical problems that purebreeds" based on personal experience. I do hear of less problems with mutts. So I guess unless someone actully did a study on it or took some sort of official poll we will never know. |
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03-16-2007, 06:09 PM
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#54 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by peace36 I never thought of it that way before. I think most people base the "mutts have less medical problems that purebreeds" based on personal experience. I do hear of less problems with mutts. So I guess unless someone actully did a study on it or took some sort of official poll we will never know. | The mutts I think of probably had great grandparents and grandparents of different breed than their actual parents, making them a more mixed mutt (if this makes any sense--lolol) which could probably make them healthier than mutts of two specific breeds--say that three times fast--lol |
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11-21-2007, 03:54 PM
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#55 | | Junior Member
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| Re: peekapoo 1st off i would like to say me and my girlfriend got a peekapoo about a week ago and she is a great gift to this earth to have i also have to snchowsers with paper work to show of their full breed as do i for my peekapoo for the ignorant people who seem to just think that peekapoos are just mutts id like for you to do a little research the peekapoo has been around since at least the 1950's not i know thats not as long as you " full blooded " dogs or what have you . another thing i would like to point out is yes the peekapoo is seseptible to medical problems but no more than you full blood inbreed dogs so why doesnt every one get off the hater aid and leave them alone |
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11-21-2007, 04:10 PM
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#56 | | Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by nilla so why doesnt every one get off the hater aid and leave them alone | I wouldn't confuse the dog with the breeders that breed them. If you don't know why people despise poo mix breeders, show me a meaningful DNA test for a peekapoo, a venue in which peekapoos are tested, and a breed group that's committed to a standard. In all three cases what you'll find is that much work still needs to be done before these dogs are recognized as anything other than a mix (mutt).
Peekapoos are cute, and they are worthy of our love. The breeders that make them, however, have not earned our respect.
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