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Curbside Prophet · 01-12-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chrissyofFL

I just think CP is being a jerk because if that is her dog on the picture she has then she has alot to be snappy about. no originality to it plain and simple. give me a mutt anyday.

I think Elsa's more offended than I am, lol.

chrissyofFL · 01-12-2007, 03:55 PM

so is the way cp has acted when i came on here for advice not an advocate for breeding. And sawyer has made more sense than cp through everything mouthed off by her.

Lorina · 01-12-2007, 03:58 PM

I don't care about personal insult. I can insult someone better than anyone else. But to make fun of the way a dog looks? That reflects a lot worse on you than it does on Elsa.

Curbside Prophet · 01-12-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chrissyofFL

And sawyer has made more sense than cp through everything mouthed off by her.

I agree, Sawyer made a lot of sense!

Keno's Mom · 01-12-2007, 04:44 PM

Question for you Chrissy - WHERE did you get your puppy? From a newspaper ad (backyard breeder) or a pet shop (backyard breeder or worse, puppy mill)?

And can I ask how much you paid for your puppy?

DogAdvocat · 01-12-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chrissyofFL

This type of dog was made on purpose this is not just a dog got pregnant from around the hood. It also is in demand right now. So what is wrong with wanting this type of dog. I prefer her to any pure bred, this is what I wanted and so do others. And to everyone who snapped at me about breeding I only asked is because I have been asked if I will breed her later with their dog and wanted advice on that situation. so do all these other people think everyone should have the exact same dog,ever heard of to much inbreeding makes them stupid so there is nothing wrong with wanting one different.

It sounds like you still don't understand that no one is criticizing mutts, mixed breeds, crosses, whatever you want to call them. I have no doubt that your dog is wonderful and adorable. I've had plenty of mixed breeds, and purebreds - all rescued, all pieces of my heart.

But the problem is, there are so many dogs needing homes, that the only reasonable reason to breed is to improve on what's already out there -- NOT to meet a demand. And the way to improve is to breed to a standard. Do you realize that the standards set for purebred dogs were developed as an ideal of what a dog should be? Each breed has one, and they are quite intricate - far more so than I can grasp - which is why a responsible breeder spends years studying the standard for her breed. It's that standard that dictates the differences between basset hounds and great danes, because neither of those dogs, with their individual body types, could do the job that the other was meant to do. The standards are also developed with health in mind, and though I have a lot of criticism for those that have set up standards that made looks more important than function, the fact is that it's the whole standard that dictates a harmoniously put-together dog, which will show in it's general health and temperament.

When you put two divergent breeds together, with no standard in mind, then what you get is a grab bag. I again ask you what you will do if the puppies are born with cleft palates, which is a definite possibility being that they have push-faced dogs in their ancestry? Kill em? Pay for surgery on each of them? Got big $$$$$$ ?

DogAdvocat · 01-12-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chrissyofFL

I just think CP is being a jerk because if that is her dog on the picture she has then she has alot to be snappy about. no originality to it plain and simple. give me a mutt anyday.

I don't think I saw CP say anywhere that his dog was better than yours. I'm sure, like mine, they are both great dogs. But your question is about breeding, and I hazard a guess that CP isn't breeding his either. This isn't about whether purebreds are better than mutts, or vice versa. This is about whether it's right to bring more dogs into this world for no other reason than they are the fad breed of the day. That's just not a good enough reason when so many are dying for lack of homes, and it's not a good enough reason to risk the health of the dog you love. At least it would never be a good enough reason for me to risk my dog - whether pure or mixed.

britishbandit · 01-12-2007, 05:17 PM

Chrissy - your frustrations over not understanding what we are trying to get across are no reason to start insulting people. I don't get why after all these respnoses you still don't get it!

Where are these pills I keep hearing about, we need some here!! LOL

DogAdvocat · 01-12-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by britishbandit

Chrissy - your frustrations over not understanding what we are trying to get across are no reason to start insulting people. I don't get why after all these respnoses you still don't get it!

Where are these pills I keep hearing about, we need some here!! LOL

Either that or a "sign". I assume everyone has heard of Bill Engvall's (Blue Collar Comedy) sign? "Here's your sign."

chrissyofFL · 01-12-2007, 06:38 PM

For one I had finally found out what I was wondering about if I should give in a breed her,I had asked for advice about this type of dog and it took pages of insults from cp to get someone to tell me of problems that could occur which is what I had originally asked. So I think I am sticking with my own gut feeling and not doing it and not because she is a "mutt" which I take any day so thank you and get over it.

Lorina · 01-12-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorina

Please do not breed her. There are too many unwanted, homeless dogs being up to sleep every day, and the world does not need more mixed breed puppies. Plus, spaying her will help her live a longer, healthier life, reducing the risk of mammary cancer and elminating the risk for pyometra - a life-threatening infection of the uterus.

I posted that yesterday, about 7:30pm EST.

DogAdvocat · 01-12-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chrissyofFL

For one I had finally found out what I was wondering about if I should give in a breed her,I had asked for advice about this type of dog and it took pages of insults from cp to get someone to tell me of problems that could occur which is what I had originally asked. So I think I am sticking with my own gut feeling and not doing it and not because she is a "mutt" which I take any day so thank you and get over it.

Congratulations !!! I guess you really do love her after all.

Please have her spayed by 6 months, 5 months would be even better. The important thing is to get her spayed before her first heat to prevent mammary cancer later in life.

britishbandit · 01-12-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chrissyofFL

For one I had finally found out what I was wondering about if I should give in a breed her,I had asked for advice about this type of dog and it took pages of insults from cp to get someone to tell me of problems that could occur which is what I had originally asked. So I think I am sticking with my own gut feeling and not doing it and not because she is a "mutt" which I take any day so thank you and get over it.

Regardless of the health risks, you still wanted to breed a mutt. And :get over it"? I don't need to get over anything, expept ignorance and/or stupidity in dog owners, whether they own a mutt or a purebred. It's one thing to try and understand those who aren't educated and help to educate, but even with help you continue to be on the defensive. Like all the rest of us are wrong for wanting to promote responsible breeding and to do our best to inform people about "designer dogs", BYB's and puppymills.

Is it such a bad thing that we care so much about dogs? And yes, that includes your dog.

And BTW, the only one throwing out insults is YOU!

chrissyofFL · 01-12-2007, 08:05 PM

YOU NEED TO READ BACK BANDIT I was asking about it because I was asked to breed her later on with someone else's dog. I never said I wanted to breed her. I wanted advice on this. So try to keep up next time.

Sawyer · 01-12-2007, 08:07 PM

I'm going to ignore the bizarre attack you threw at CP because I happen to know, on good authority, that the dog you insulted is not CP's dog. But, rather, CP himself. These darn purebreds are getting smarter everyday.

Chrissy - good grief, where to start? Let me say again, that I do understand where you are coming from. You stated you are a first time owner. Maybe in the excitement and love over your newest arrival you got ahead of yourself and considered, not too seriously, to breed. Maybe you were only a tiny bit serious. I can understand how the excitement of a new dog could bring about feelings you may not validate weeks later. As a new dog owner, you got the dog you wanted and then promptly joined a bunch of strangers on a forum to brag about your cutie - only to be "attacked." Please understand, the people on this forum love dogs, and most are very knowledgeable on the subject. Dogs do not have an audiable voice, and sometimes, people here take on that role to help owners "hear" their dogs. You are one of many with no or little knowledge of dogs who want to breed. It gets downright heartbreaking after awhile and of course, difficult to kindly get the point across. So excited, loving owners like you feel like you've been tied to the whipping post - when really, all that was meant was a plea to stop perpetuating the overpopulation of dogs. What we have is two sides, both dog loving, fighting. I don't know what the answer is, I really don't, because in this consumerism America it seems just about anything can be "stocked."

Chrissy, I truly see that you are hearing what has been posted. Despite your mini-tantrum and attacks

you HAVE heard and taken in the advice given. I hope you stick around. Your pup is very young and you will need advice - I've certainly taken my share of threads with questions about my own pup - I hope you'll stay. If you do, I think you will find that everyone, including you and me, has a lot to learn.

Good luck with your new pup. I don't recall a pic or name. Maybe you'll post both on another thread.

chrissyofFL · 01-12-2007, 08:15 PM

Thank you sawyer It seemed that everyone wanted to attack me when I asked which is all I did. I never said that I was going to. Iwas asked if I would with someone else's dog. This is my first pup I had 2 other dogs that I adopted from the pound but they were older they have passed but I had them for over 10 years. So I know all of this about unwanted pets. But this dog I saw and wanted on site. So I asked some questions about her I thought I would get good advice so she would be better off but all everyone saw was BREED. she has already became the baby of the house even with the kids and not looked at as a mutt here so thank you for your advice you are the only one trying.

chrissyofFL · 01-12-2007, 08:27 PM

hope you can see this pic and her name is Tessa thank you sawyer.

Sawyer · 01-12-2007, 09:20 PM

Ahhhhh, some peace! Your pic didn't come through, I'm bummed, I'd love to see the little pup causing such a stir! I'm very happy to hear your babe is good with your family - it's always nice to hear of a happy home. My pup is so wonderful with my boys - I find myself bragging about him and just boring those around me, but I can't help it (or maybe I can but don't want to).

Is Tessa eating any better? She's been through a lot with a new home and all.

And just curious, really, no debates, and you certainly owe me no answers, but will Tessa be spayed??

Keno's Mom · 01-12-2007, 10:10 PM

Chrissy you never did answer my question to you - where did you get your dog from - pet shop or backyard breeder from an ad in the paper and how much did your pup cost?

animalcraker · 01-12-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Keno's Mom

Chrissy you never did answer my question to you - where did you get your dog from - pet shop or backyard breeder from an ad in the paper and how much did your pup cost?

It doesn't really matter where she got her dog and how much it was. As long as she is commited to taking proper care of her dog for it's entire life and doing whats best for her dog, that's all that matters. She has already said on the previous page that she is not going to breed her dog and get her spayed.