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gio

hi i am looking for a mini pinscher. i need one be4 christmas so my parents could buy it and that could b my present. i want one to be 300$ or less. it needs to be no more than an hour from bloomington illinois. please help me!

Dogged

I'm not sure why this was put in the medical section, but regardless, have you looked into getting a dog from a rescue? Min Pin rescue always has dogs for adoption that need homes, they somethimes even have puppies.

If you are adamant about getting a dog from a breeder, you need to do your homework on the breed and find out what problems they have and find a breeder that is also aware of those problems and tries to eliminate those problems from their lines. You need to ask around and get good recommendations from other people

The min pin rescue in your area may know of a breeder, ask them.

Please have your new dog spayed or neutered before it is 6 months old for its own health, and to prevent even more unwanted dogs when the pounds are already full of so many needing homes that will die because no one wants them.

Snowshoe

In my opinion, what you are wanting is a recipe for disaster.

The only way you'll be able to find a dog for that price is through a puppy mill, and those are terrible places to get puppies.

My suggestion is to hold off on getting the puppy, and research breeders until you can afford a nice, healthy puppy. It should cost you around $900 for a nice puppy.

You really should be more concerned with the health and temperment of your dog, rather then the fact that YOU want it for Christmas. Just like having a baby, you really need to put your pet's well being before yours.

Christmas is a bad time for getting new pets of any kind. There is too much commotion for a pet to settle in well. Not only that, but it will be hard for you to devote time to the pet during the holidays.

Here is a good place to start in researching breeders:
http://www.minpin.org/

If the breeder you pick is not a member of this club, then they are not worth getting a puppy from.

Snowshoe

How to Separate a Serious Dog Breeder from the Rest of the Pack:
A Checklist for Evaluating Breeders
Congratulations, you've decided to add a new member to your family!

After you've chosen a breed from our list of dog breeds (see www.doggies.com) and searched for conveniently located dog breeders (see www.breeders.net), you can use this checklist to guide your dog breeder evaluation.

Don't give in to impulse buying! Sticking with the list and waiting for a dog breeder you are comfortable with will help ensure a good fit, and a happy, healthy dog.

Part One: The Basics

Before you answer that ad for "puppies for sale" or "dogs for sale", learn the correct answers for your breed at www.doggies.com so you can ask the following questions of a breeder.

Q: What size (height and weight) is correct for this dog breed?
Q: Does this dog breed need to be brushed or combed more often than once a week?
Q: Does this dog breed require professional help in clipping or grooming?
Q: How much ground needs to be covered in daily exercise? Is a one-mile walk a lot or not very much for this dog breed?
Q: Is the dog breed you have selected one of the dog breeds that are subject to any genetic diseases? Have the appropriate tests been performed to avoid those diseases?

Contact rescuers of the breed (www.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/animal_rescue will get you started) to know how the breeder should answer this question:

Q: What are the most common reasons given for giving up this dog breed to rescue?

Part Two: Confirm that all of the following are true

* Puppies for sale are born on the premises - not shipped in.
* Breeder does not sell puppies to wholesalers, brokers, dealers or retail shops.
* Dog set up is clean and well kept.
* Breeder insists that the puppies for sale will be at least seven weeks old before being placed.
* Sire and dam of the litter are at least two years old and were tested for genetic health before the breeding.
* Breeder volunteered information on the health testing of most of the immediate relatives of the sire and dam, volunteered proof and offers a guarantee against genetic health problems of at least two years. (Note: It isn't possible to produce dogs entirely free of genetic problems.)
* Puppies for sale and dogs for sale have been introduced to children and other animals as part of their socialization.
* Breeder reviewed some of the problems some people have with the breed.
* Breeder asked if you plan to breed the dog.
* Breeder is available as a resource for advice and support for the life of the dog.
* Breeder promises to take the dog in (not return your money) if you can't keep it, for the life of the dog.
* Breeder provides a contract for your review and goes over it with you.
* Breeder raises no more than 3 or 4 different breeds of puppies for sale and dogs for sale. It is very difficult for a breeder to be competent in more breeds.
* Breeder is a member of a breed club.
* Breeder's primary concern is finding a good home for the puppy, rather than getting paid.
* Breeder asked you lots of questions about your lifestyle, family, experience with dogs and other pets, why you are looking for a dog for sale.
* Breeder was happy to answer all your questions and made you feel comfortable asking for advice.
* Breeder acknowledges to you that they are familiar with the Breeders.NET Code of Ethics and have agreed to be bound by its standard of behavior.


Part Three: What you should get with your puppy

1. a properly executed Registration Certificate. Registration materials may be withheld if a written statement is provided of when, and under what conditions, they will be provided (e.g. until the time of spay or neuter by the new owner as verified by a veterinarian, or if a written certification identifying the exact date of birth, and the AKC, UKC or CKC (in Canada) registration numbers of the Sire and Dam are provided instead).
2. written, three-generation pedigree.
3. health record including a diet, inoculation and parasite control record, and health guarantee.
4. basic diet and care information.
5. time frame during which the puppy or dog may be examined by a licensed veterinarian, at the buyer's expense, and, upon written recommendation of the veterinarian for specific reasons, the puppy or dog may be returned to the seller for a full refund of all money paid.

Keno's Mom

No reputable breeder that cares about their dogs will sell or place a Christmas puppy around holiday time. Its too much on the family and the pet - especially the pet.

You have a new dog that doesn't know anyone, is taken from mom and siblings - put in a strange place. And then you have lots of commotion going on, people yelling, running around, etc. and you want to expose a poor little puppy (especially a small breed) to this? Think how the puppy will feel.

Also you need to know how to properly train a puppy, housebreak him/her, and give them time to adjust to things. You get a puppy AFTER holiday time when you have lots more time to devote on the welfare of your pet.

Getting a new puppy is a big responsibility - learn a little about patience cause if you don't have it now in finding a pup, you certainly will not be prepared to properly train that puppy....and guess what - you'll be whining about how bad the puppy is in a few weeks or months and wanting to dump him/her in some shelter.

As a former cat breeder (purebred) I NEVER ever place kittens in the hands of the new owners during Christmas. I planned the litter so that the kittens would either go to homes early in Sept/Oct. or they would be placed after February.

As far as your searches if you don't want to spend a lot, look into rescue groups for a older dog/pup or Petfinder.com for your breed. And even if you find one at a shelter or rescue group - neither will place puppies/kittens during the month of December. You'll get a gift certificate of the one you choose and then can pick him/her up after the holidays are over (put a deposit on the pup).

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Sawyer

I'm guessing you are young and I think it's nice you are willing to give up all presents to have a dog! The holidays are such a crazy time and I realize you are anxious but can I suggest you open an IOU at Christmas time and then take your time looking for the right dog. You are planning on having your dog for his lifetime so you both deserve a good fit! Does your pup have to be purebred? You can try petfinder.com if you'd like a shelter babe - put in the breed you want and your area code. I got my mutt pup from a shelter and paid $500 - with that in mind, I highly doubt you'll get a purebred from a good breeder for less.

Good luck!

gio

no i don't want a pure breed. i just want a normal mini pinscher. and also for the guy above. he said that i have to pay more to get a good dog. i call bs cause i can probably find an awesome dog with nothing wrong that is around 300 bux. i know that some dogs are 500 bucks but i bet that the dogs that are 300-350 bucks are almost the same. the more expensive ones may have like good genes or like have blood from a champion but i don't need any of that. all i want is a regular mini pinscher. i fell in love with that dog. i already tried the puppy find thing and i have googled the dog many many times and i still can't find a mi pi that is located by me with a reasonable price.

Keno's Mom

A mini pin IS a purebred dog. Its not a designer dog. And IF you find one that is under $500 from a breeder it will be from a backyard breeder who does not test their dogs and breeds for money or worse - from a puppy mill!

Many puppies you see in pet shops will be from puppy mills. So forget about getting one so cheap unless you check the shelters or rescue groups. Like I said before - be patient and keep looking for the RIGHT puppy - you will be much happier getting it later and being more prepared then to try and find a puppy for Christmas.

BTW do you realize just how much money that legit breeders put out to be sure their dogs are qualified to be bred? Cheaper puppies might start out cheap, but you could very well end up with a puppy with a lot of medical problems and it will cost you far more then the $300 you planned on spending now.

Keno was a free rescue dog - private party - abused. BUT we spent over $100 for spaying, another $100 for all shots and heartworm meds. And to top it off another $400-500 because she was found to be heartworm positive and had to go thru those tests/medications to be cured. So my free dog within the first year we had her costs as much as if we had gone to a legit breeder and bought a puppy that was healthy and tested.

nicole84

I agree with everyone else


1. christmas time is no time to be getting a new puppy

2.go to a shelter and or rescue not a backyard breeder or puppy mill

3.a good puppy will cost you way more than 300.00


so please rethink your decision and wait on getting your puppy after the holidays and after you have done more rescearch on the breed you want.

Callie15

Hi
I was on petfinder and looking for a min pin for you in illinois and found many many dogs!
go to
http://search.petfinder.com/search/s...=Dog&preview=1

Hope this helps, but please get your dog from a shelter or rescue group!

Dulce

Almost sounds like spam to me..

It makes me sick to my stomache to read things like this. I hope the dog ends up being a rescue, and that it will be CARE for.

Everyone gave GREAT advice

cshellenberger

Sorry, these people have given you EXCELLENT advice! You say you want a Min Pin, but you obviously haven't done your homework. A $300.00 Min Pin is going to cost you huge amounts in the end due to health and temperment problems. Also, a Min Pin IS a purebred.

If you are serious about getting one, here is some info on major health concerns in Min Pins. You should be sure that the parents have been Health tested to be sure they don't have any of these conditions http://www.minpin.org/health.htm

They should be OFA certified for hips, patella, Thyroid, and DNA for eye conditions just to cover the basics. These tests are expensive and that is what makes the difference in price from a back yard breeder vs a reputable breeder that tests. Oh, Min Pins also have alot of back problems and those can also be costly to treat.


If you want a Min Pin for less, adopt from the breed rescue.

pinkpuppy360

I used to want a mini pincher so bad but when I did my resurch, I found out that it wasnt the dog for my lifestyle. You need to find a dog for your lifestile, not because you think that pincher puppies are cute. Instead of getting a pincher I found a yorkipoo that I love dearly! You can see a pic of it in my avitar. I got my yorkypoo cheap because its a mix. There is a therory that mixed dogs turn out to be healthier, instead of getting a pure from a, I cant even say it, a dog mill!

Snowshoe

LOL!

First off, I'm a woman. Not a guy!

The other posters are dead on:

1) Mineature Pinscers are pure bred dogs. They can be registered with the AKC and have their own breed club.

2) If you think you can get a great dog for under $300, you are sadly mistaken. Beneath I will post a link on puppy mills, who are the kind of people who sell dogs for that little of an amount.

http://www.imom.org/voices/literature/Everything.htm

3) A puppy that only costs $500 would not come from champion bloodlines. In fact, any puppy less then $900 would not come from champion lines.

You know that saying, "You get what you pay for?" Well, the same is true in the dog world. A dog that MAY only cost $300 in the mean time may end up costing you and your parents thousands in vet bills, when it experiences health problems.

And, if you get your dog from a puppy mill, you can bet that it will have some kind of health or temperment problem.

My suggestion is that if you're not willing to put the needs of the dog before your own, then just get an XBox 360. They're about $300, and require no care.

I realize that I probably sound harsh to you. I've just seen too many dogs end up in shelters, and they all had beginnings that sound like this one.

Edit: I gave that breeder check list to you for one reason- and that is to save you, your family, and the puppy you choose heart ache. You should really read it, and show it to your parents.

Snowshoe

Pinkpuppy, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but just because a dog is a mixed breed doesn't mean it will be free of health issues.

If you breed two random dogs together, and both have back/hip/eye problems (pick your poison) then regardless if they produce mutt puppies, their bad genetics will be passed down.

cshellenberger

Snowshoe is right, mixing breeds is no garauntee of health and it produces unpredictable temperments. Bad genetics are still passed on from both breeds.

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