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Old 02-12-2008, 07:06 PM   #1
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First off hello to all memebers I am new here. I have been seriously considering purchasing a puppy for a few years now, doing lots of research on all breeds and narrowing down my choices, my problem is I have no clue 1. if I am ready for a dog or 2. what type would be right for me.

Currently and for many many years in the future I will be living in an apartment with little to no yard, first consideration. I will be graduating college soon, and entering the work force with a standard 9-5 job. I only want one dog, no companions so I guess I need a dog that would be independent? Also I am looking for a medium to large sized dog. I am totally into getting lots of outdoor time in with my dog and giving it the time and financial support it will need. I just need helping in choosing a breed that would be suited for my lifestyle. I would also prefer a dog that is relatively quiet and a good companion and loyal/affectionate with me.

If anyone has any suggestions as to a particular breed that would suite most of my needs I would really appreciate feedback to help me out.
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:18 AM   #2
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You've got a little bit of a disconnect between a dog that is "Independent" and a "Companion/Affectionate". First time dog owners are usually better off with a dog that has high pack drive. High prey drive dogs can be more challenging to train. While every breed has certain unique traits (which we all have preferences about), the temperment is more important in the long run than size, shape or physical appearance.
A big part of your training will depend not only on the pack or prey drive relationship but also the puppies defense drives...fight, flight, freeze or appease. There are a couple of temperment tests...some rely on these to make a choice while others let the puppy choose them. Other considerations are how reactive the puppy is to sights and sounds. Again, a skittish, fearful puppy can be quite challenging to teach.
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retired racing greyhound.
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:21 AM   #4
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I was thinking the same thing, Lovemygreys. A retired racing Greyhound could fit the bill quite well.
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:31 AM   #5
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Re: Trouble Choosing!

well I guess by independent I mean more of a dog who will do well without other dogs around.

I have thought about a greyhound, and also have some other dogs I have considered. Doberman pinscher, labrador retriever, pitbull terrier, and a weimaraner. I know they are all quite different dogs but these are the ones I am particularly attracted to. If you have any experience with these let me know how they are in general.

Thanks for the replies. =)
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Old 02-13-2008, 01:17 PM   #6
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Re: Trouble Choosing!

Unless you're willing to consider an older adult (5+ years) from rescue,I think you're going to have a tough time with the other breeds, simply because you're going to be gone so much. I'd rule out the pit bull since you're going to be in an apartment and it's darn near impossible to find rental housing that takes them, and they're tough for a first dog.

I'd seriously research the greyhound.
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I agree on the greyhound. They sound perfect for you. Unless you wanted a toy breed, they are probably the only breed I would recommend.
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:55 PM   #8
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Except for the grey ALL the dogs you listed would not only have a hard time living in an apartment (unless they're only home to sleep and you spend the rest of your life except for sleep outside with them) have a high prey drive and would want to be chasing everything in sight. I think Greys also have a high prey drive but alre more laid back about being alone + if it's a retired Grey, they've gotten rid of MOST of the zoomies already.

What about a smaller breed like a whippet or even a rescue from the local shelter. Most shelters will let you meet and greet and give you ideas of which ones are laid back and less likely to suffer from sep anxiety.
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What about an Italian Greyhound? More manageable size, same look and temperament for the most part.
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Retired greyhound sounds like an excellent dog for you. The other breeds that you mentioned would not do well in an apartment. Saw some lovely retired greys at the local petco today. There were two beautiful brindles and one white and brindle, they had eyes that could melt your heart!!
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What about an Italian Greyhound? More manageable size, same look and temperament for the most part.
Not the same temperament as a greyhound at all...nor really the same look other than they're 'skinny' like big sized greyhounds. They can be difficult to house train (one of the big reasons they end up in rescues) and they can be very nervous little dogs...don't like to be far from their humans (read: not independent). There are, of course, exceptions to this and excellent breeding is really important. DO NOT get an IG from a pet store or BYB. Find a GOOD breeder who is active in the breed (showing, obedience or lure coursing).

They are cute...I'd love to have one one day when we get too old and frail to handle our big guys. Since the OP was looking for a medium to large breed, I doubt an IG would be what they are looking for.

To the OP: I'll write up a summary of my opinion of greyhounds as pets (though, I'm a bit biased as we have 11 retired greys living with us!). There are also tons of greyt websites and a huge greyhound-specific board as well.
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I am slightly curious as I don't know much about greyhounds, why would they make great apartment dog's ?
Pretty well all I trully know about them from friends having them is that they are high enery but yet still couch potatoes (if that made sense) but I also know they need plenty of run time .. so I am slightly confused .. sorry like I said I trully know little to nothing about greyhounds.
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I am slightly curious as I don't know much about greyhounds, why would they make great apartment dog's ?
Pretty well all I trully know about them from friends having them is that they are high enery but yet still couch potatoes (if that made sense) but I also know they need plenty of run time .. so I am slightly confused .. sorry like I said I trully know little to nothing about greyhounds.
Here goes (this may get long so I apologize in advance).

Greyhounds are, by design, a sprinting breed. Even when they are racing they run only a 30 second race every 6 days or so. It takes a day or two to recover from expending such a tremendous amount of energy and then they are kept loose between races by walks or short sprints. Think of a cheetah who can reach maximum speed for only a short burst and then takes a long while to recover from that. Same principle in greyhounds. You can build endurance in a greyhound, but it is not their nature to go-go-go. More like sleep-go-sleep.

High energy is not something I'd attribute to a greyhound, unless they were still a puppy. Of course, most breeds of puppies seem to have boundless, limitless energy. Once they hit about 3, they really mellow out.

Why they make great apartment dogs: They don't bark a lot, they don't shed a lot, they are low-to-moderate energy - happy to doze most of the day in the house and go for walkies a couple times a day. Ideally, owners can find a place to run their dogs safely off leash a few times a month. Most areas with greyhound adoption groups also have greyhound playdays - a chance to socialize and exercise greyhounds as a group. Very few of our dogs will just run for running's sake - they need a reason like chasing a bunny or running with (racing against) other greyhounds. Greyhound playgroups go a lot like this: run for about 30 seconds, mooch ear scritchies off the humans for a while, check and leave pee-mail, repeat. We take our crew to run in a 6 acre field and once they do a loop-do-loo, they're pretty much done and ready to go home. Takes us longer to drive there and drive home than for them to run themselves tired. At a walking pace, they will go further.

When I lived in an apartment I had two greyhounds - daily walks..about 20 minutes in the morning, 30 or so minutes after work and then another 20 minute walk before bed. Some longer walks/outings on the weekends. We also did greyhound playgroup once a week most weeks. DH had four in an apartment with the same schedule, though probably 1-2 more short walks b/c he worked from home.

I've found that our greyhounds (currently 11 with 4 at the Bridge...not counting countless fosters) will rise to our level of activity. When we are really busy with work and other things, they tend to mellow out more. When we're being really active, they rise to meet that as well. Of course, you have variances in personalities - our little black bitch Echo would go nuts if she didn't have a fenced yard to run in every day. My cranky old gal Haley would be full of piss and vinegar if I made her go for a walk every day. She's always taken retirement very seriously BUT, most greyhounds fall into the middle ground where they are happy with a low-to-moderate amount of exercise. We took Harmony and Melody for a 1/2 mile stroll (not even fast paced!) walk around a small lake yesterday and they were zonked out all night...It, in all, took about an hour b/c everyone wants to stop and talk to you when you have a greyhound!

The biggest challenge in adopting a greyhound is remembering that these dogs have been professional athletes up till their retirement. Depending on how long they raced, they'll know some basics - they'll be crate trained and most will walk nicely on a leash. BUT, they've most likely never seen ceiling fans or TVs or kids riding by on bikes or bouncing balls. Any food they see has always been for them and no one's really asked much of them other than to get along with others in the turn out pen. It's kinda like having a puppy...you have to teach them to be a pet. The majority learn quickly and easily if you follow a few simple home acclimation steps. Many groups will also foster track dogs to get the home acclimation process started for you.

People will often comment on how well behaved greyhounds are...so quiet and polite. They think you are a great dog owner! To be honest, greyhounds are just naturally pretty well behaved. You don't really have to do much to have a perfect dog.

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I would really advise against Dobermans in an apartment setting. Also, you said you wanted an independent dog. Dobermans are NOT independent at all. They are velcro dogs, and the type that will follow you around the house all day. They also need ALOT of exercise, one walk a day is not enough. I tend to agree with everyone else a Greyhound would be a good choice. However, this should be your decision. Do your own research and find the breed you want. Be honest with yourself, and get the dog that makes the most sense for you.
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lovemygreys: Great post!! I think that would be the perfect dog for wkkyury. I met a couple of Greys at my vets and fell in love.
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IMO I don't think a lab would be the best choice. Labs are good guard dogs with their "lab lungs". This could be an issue in an apartment setting. They also love to be with their "family" they are true velco dogs and can be quite destructive when left alone for a long period of time.

I have heard great things about the English Bulldog.

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