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Old 12-28-2007, 11:06 PM   #1
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German pointer eating everything in house

Aloha, I have a 8 month old pointer who used to be very well behaived. It went from a little chewing on the door jams, to eating the corner off an armoire, to peeling the veneer of the steps, and today he schredded a magazine and destroyed a digital camera. They were laying on the coffee table. I left hima new bone today but he ate the mag and camera. The day he ate the veneer, he was only alone for a few hours. So what gives? He gets a fair amount of excerise. Its hit and miss, sometimes people are here at the house and sometimes they arent. He has full roam of the house and can go outside on his own. How do i punish him for these wrongdoings? What is the cause of this?

Please help! he is worse than termites!

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Old 12-28-2007, 11:12 PM   #2
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Re: German pointer eating everything in house

I wouldn't punish the dog. It is the human with unrealistic expectations of leaving a bored dog at home on the loose.

I would buy a crate and use it.
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Old 12-28-2007, 11:37 PM   #3
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Re: German pointer eating everything in house

He's in the prime puppy chewing period. Punishment after the fact will do no good as he won't know why he's in trouble.

Buy a crate and crate train the dog, and leave him in there when you cannpt be home to watch him. Trust me, this is far kinder than creating a situation where he gets himself into trouble out of boredom or anxiety.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:01 PM   #4
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Re: German pointer eating everything in house

Aloha! I am desperately trying to move to the land of paradise!

Getting to your post, I also think your dog is in the prime chewing stage, correcting even a few seconds after the fact is useless, dog won't retain why the scolding is being done.

You are asking a bit much from an 8 month old dog by leaving things where he can reach them, and not expecting him to get them and chew. Everything dogs sees at this point is fair game for his mouth. Part of correcting this problem is giving dog something you WANT him to chew on, when you catch him going at something you DONT. But, this is only a portion of what it takes.

Your dog should earn his freedom through your trust. This needs to be done gradually, so you can carefully monitor what is going on.

I would suggest that there are other behavior issues such as peeing etc. in the house that are going along with this problem. Even if there aren't, you need to completely back up, treat your dog like a 3 month old, and start all over with breaking in your dog. If you do not, your problem will never be solved, and it could very well get worse, which would completely ruin your relationship with your dog.

Pick a system you and your dog can count on, keep in mind that dogs are creatures of habit, they depend on structure and repetitive scheduling. There are numerous systems out there, I have a 5 step one that includes house training. If you want it, I will be happy to post it.

Finally, you are in for lots of work for at least the next 6-9 months, you really need to consider what it is going to take to make this happen. Also keep in mind that when a dog does something wrong, it's the fault of the human in charge, not the dogs.

Good luck!

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Old 12-29-2007, 12:42 PM   #5
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Re: German pointer eating everything in house

I don't know why you would want to punish a dog that clearly just needs more physical and mental exercise. A German Pointer is not a couch potato-type breed! Not to mention, your dog is still a puppy, with all the puppy energy that goes with that.
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:48 PM   #6
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Re: German pointer eating everything in house

Aloha Nate! Yes I have been trying to move to Hawaii for a few years, it is ever more difficult as one gets older. I skipped my yearly trip this year because the distance is just to great, I live very close to Washington D.C. and have been there at least once every year for the past 12.

Getting to your dog issue. I agree that your dog desperately needs more exercise, at least once a day for at least 20-30 minutes or until he drops. He may need this twice a day for a while. He is bored and is looking for ways to release it. If you crate him, keep in mind that all of his pent up energy will be more evident. He really needs a way to get rid if it and that’s where humans come in.

The key to curing the chewing problem is to give him things you want him to chew on, like bones etc. and every second supervision with a leash when he is not crated. When you catch him chewing on something wrong, give him a bone and tons of praise (you should also praise him for anything he does that is positive like laying around, eating, drinking etc. Anything that will let him know that he can please you). All of this needs to be repeated lots of times, some dogs may take a while. Keep items out of his reach that you don't want him to destroy.

Here is my 5 step program. There are some things that do not pertain to you, most do. In general, this will help both you and your dog get off to a fresh start. Please forgive the length.

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*Potty training. Don’t expect a “quick fix”. To be successful with this and other training issues, you really need to crate train. Potty training correctly, is a very important issue for you and your dog. Lots of people get frustrated when their dog does not make progress. Commitment, work, consistency, treats and praise and are key to this issue. Potty training problems are one of the major reasons so many dogs wind up at the pound or back at one. Below I have listed 5 key steps to get your dog potty trained. It a simple procedure that has worked for me and lots of others. But first, some words about crate training.

Numerous people have a negative attitude about crate training. They think that the dog will be uncomfortable when crated, or they don’t like the idea because of what they have read, heard, or just think. If you have a negative attitude, you need to make it a positive.

Crate training a newly introduced pup or even an older dog is one of the most important things you will ever do for you and your new dog. Pups and older dogs love the feeling of being closed in when they are in a strange place, especially if there is an old sheet over the crate, leaving the front open so dog can look out. If the crate has to much room for a pup to move around, put something indestructible inside to cut down on space so pup can curl up and feel secure. Leaving soft music playing when you are away pacifies the dog and helps prevent separation anxiety. Dogs of any age kept confined to the crate won’t get into trouble when you are away or can’t supervise. The more room new dogs have to roam around in like a blocked off kitchen or bathroom, the more trouble they can get in to.

If you have a pup, the crate should be in your bedroom at night and in a living area during the day to help the bonding process. It is not realistic to expect a pup, used to being around litter mates and mother to like being left alone, especially at night. They get frightened and confused and make all kinds of noise.

If whining is an issue, with the sheet over the crate, gently tap on the top and firmly say “stop”. This may need to be repeated a few times, but soon dog will associate your command with the crate tapping. When whining stops, give praise and treats.

Newly introduced dogs must earn your trust and their unsupervised freedom from the crate. Lots of people try to do this to quickly. This confuses the dog with to much space to roam around in. To be successful with your dog, initially you simply must supervise every second when dog is out of the crate. Dog should have a leash on when out so you can easily grab it and take the dog out when you need to or to keep it out of trouble. Frozen Kongs stuffed with cheese or peanut butter or other toys that don’t splinter should also be available for dog to chew on. Never leave dog alone with a chew toy, it could get lodged in the mouth or throat. Keep in mind that dog is looking at you and an alpha dog figure for guidance, not a human. It is your duty to provide this.

When dog is house trained and you can start to trust the way things are going, weaning dog from the crate can start. This also must be done gradually so dog won’t get confused. About 10 minute intervals without a leash over the course of about one month or more is essential, depending on how well dog is doing. When dog is good give tons of praise and perhaps a treat. While dog is out of the crate, give lots of praise for anything good done, like drinking water, laying around, chewing on a toy, etc. Anything dog does that is positive should get recognition, this builds confidence and lets dog know that it is able to please you.

To get dog used to your absence, leave the house with dog outside of the crate for only a few minutes. Leave the crate door open, return inside and give tons of praise and treats if dog has been good. If dog has gotten into only minor mischief, state your displeasure by firmly stating that dog was bad. Dogs are very visual creatures, only minor scolding and the look of your face should get the point across. Gradually increase time when dog is alone over the course of a month or so depending on how well things go.


**When house training a dog it is very important for you to pick a system and stick with that, rather than switch if things are not going well. Switching will only confuse you and your pup. If you are not having success, you need to back up and start over, only go slower. House training is the first major step dog is going to take in earning your trust, this is simply a must for any indoor dog. If you have an older dog that needs to potty trained, you need to treat dog like a pup.

Here is a simple step by step method for potty training that worked for me. It also has worked for others.

1. First you need to realize that not all dogs are the same in this category. Some get it within a week or less, others take longer etc. How you might ask do I know so much about potty training?? I rescued a 4 month old Shepard/Hound last year, my fourth dog in 16 years. (I have two others that were a snap to train). She took about 5 months to potty train. This is an unusually long time, I had to back up numerous times and start over. I dug into her past and found out that she was traumatized by her experience before I came along. She completely missed the prime time of her life to be potty trained. I was really forced to take small baby steps forward after very minimal progress.

MOST dogs won’t go in their crate. If pup does, remove blankets or padding. This should cure that problem. If problems persist, increase time when no padding is on the floor. 2. You need to start potty training by taking dog out immediately after dog comes out of the crate. Then, gradually increase length of time to regular intervals (gradually increased over the course of one-two months depending on how successful dog is doing). Get dog used to the commands “go poo” and “go pee”. These commands should be a must, they are incredibly helpful when the weather is bad.

If dog doesn't do anything, that's fine, if it does, give tons of praise and give a treat, preferably one used just for training purposes. Consistency is the key to all of this. Dogs are creatures of habit and depend on a schedule. This is no time to skimp on excessive praise and treats when you are house training. Pup needs to associate yummy treats with doing it’s thing. Boiled or baked chicken liver is a great training tool, dogs crave it and you really have their attention when you use it.

2. Daily walks at least twice a day (about 20-30 minutes each in the same area) are essential for dogs and getting them house trained. Walking gets things moving, dogs love it and it gives them something to look forward to. Try and feed a pup prior to the walks. Never free feed unless your vet says to. Pups have a high metabolism. Soon after it eats or drinks, it will need to go out.

3. Pups drink huge amounts of water. In theory yours should be able to hold it for (one hour for each month) up to about 9 months. In reality, if a young pup has been playing, it will gulp down lots of water, and just won't be able to hold it for that long. After pup drinks, keep an eye on it. Take it out in about 5-10 minutes and offer it relief. Soon pup will go to the door when it need to go out.

4. Your pup won't be considered house trained unless it has no accidents for at least 9months! Also, as I learned, there is a HUGE difference in a dog that is 4-6 months old and one that is 9-10 months old. They grow inside and out. Once they reach 9-10 months, their bladders are larger and able to hold it longer.

5. Piddle pads and newspapers should never be used. Some on this forum have suggested them, and have had success with them. If you start to use them and dog gets accustomed to doing it’s thing on them, you could have a very difficult time getting dog to go on grass or even get dog outside. Some people see these pads and papers as a short cut to potty training. It is not. Dogs really need a natural area to relieve themselves.

Because dogs are creatures of habit, they will associate the pads and papers with relieving themselves and you may find yourself starting all over in the potty training department, which would make for even more work for all involved. In other words, when was the last time you saw a wolf (dogs closest cousin) use a pee pad?

Good luck !

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Old 12-29-2007, 10:30 PM   #7
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Re: German pointer eating everything in house

A guy that I work with also has a German Pointer, and to give you an idea as to how his dog was, he did the same thing as yours is up until he was about 2 years old. He's almost 3 now, and does none of the bad things he used to do as a pup. It's your typical pup stage, and unless you really tire the pup out both physically and mentally, and you leave him alone for hours on end, he will continue the habits due to bordom. Best idea I can give is until you can properly train the puppy and gain his trust, as well as your trust in him, get a crate or training kennel for him to go in when you are not there.
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