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04-18-2008, 01:02 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Not Dead, but I never get to see him again I'm crying, I'm crying so hard. I love Oskar so much. My boyfriend is taking him away from me because I broke up with him. He had become increasingly physical with me, I couldn't take that anymore. When we got Oskar, we got him for me, I paid for him but because I wasn't 21, Oskar was put in his name. I've spent so much time on my puppy... I don't even think he likes Oskar. I can't even go to court because it won't hold up that hes mine.
I'm so so upset... I just wish he'd let me have my puppy. I want my Oskar. What can I do?  |
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04-18-2008, 01:07 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again I'm so sorry, I have no advice, but perhaps you should post a thread in the gen section and ask for advice.
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04-18-2008, 01:23 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again  I am sooo sorry!
I can only imagine how heartbroken you must be. You had to do what was right for your safety and sanity though... and this only goes to show that this guy wants to hurt you any way he can
You may be able to get him back if you explained the situation in small claims. Do you have proof that you paid for him, for his vet care, his toys, etc.? Reciepts/credit card statements/checks can hold up in court. You could also bring in a witness to testify that Oskar is your dog. I would at least give it a try.
Keep us updated. I'm so worried for you and Oskar and keeping you in my thoughts! |
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04-18-2008, 02:39 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again I am so sorry for you
I really hope there is something you can do about it. |
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04-18-2008, 04:05 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again I am sorry to hear this, do you have any proof that you paid for him or anyone that could vouch for the time you spent or training you did or who paid for vet visits.....
if you can do any of that then you can prove that you were the primary caretaker |
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04-18-2008, 04:08 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again Oh Chelsea, I could always tell from your posts that you love this little guy- good luck and I hope you can somehow get him back!! Keep us updated! |
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04-18-2008, 04:28 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again I have proof of his original purchase at the shelter but not dog stores, and we went to the vet and other places together.
I'd feel a little better if he took Oskar because he is more finicaially stable and loved him, but he just took him away because I broke up with him. I feel horrible that Oskar is in this situation... I want my doggy. Danny said he was going to sign the title over to me on my Birthday (next week) but now hes not going to.
We may go to court anyway because he is refusing to pay April rent, owes me money, then police/hospital, even that is looking impossible. Everyone I talked to said in court it won't hold up that Oskar is my dog.
I miss his big smiling face, when they left Oskar wouldn't come to him when he called, he just wanted to sit with me... |
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04-18-2008, 04:32 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelsea and Oskar I have proof of his original purchase at the shelter but not dog stores, and we went to the vet and other places together.
I'd feel a little better if he took Oskar because he is more finicaially stable and loved him, but he just took him away because I broke up with him. I feel horrible that Oskar is in this situation... I want my doggy. Danny said he was going to sign the title over to me on my Birthday (next week) but now hes not going to.
We may go to court anyway because he is refusing to pay April rent, owes me money, then police/hospital, even that is looking impossible. Everyone I talked to said in court it won't hold up that Oskar is my dog.
I miss his big smiling face, when they left Oskar wouldn't come to him when he called, he just wanted to sit with me... | it will if you have the slip that you paid at teh shelter and someone at the vet saying you were the one that cared for him and paid vet bills
and if he went to training... who trained him.....
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04-18-2008, 04:39 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again Im so sorry to hear that this is happening to you, but at least you are save, by in meantime you need to gather up as much info as you can that proves you are the main caretaker |
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04-18-2008, 04:43 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again Danny paid for his vet check up because it was so small, I trained him at home. The only thing I have is the shelter payment, pet stores were both of us different times, cash.
I can't prove love in court, but I'd really like to try... from a non-biased standpoint he was "our" dog. I wonder if who can provide the best home would be considered. I'd also have to talk to the original shelter, maybe they have some ground.
I'm hoping once he cools down and realizes how much work Oskar is and how they don't have a strong bond he'll just let me have him. At least once he cools down I'll have a long talk with him. I could also talk to his family, I found out something not so great about their last dog, maybe I have leverage there as well. |
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04-18-2008, 04:44 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again If you have the proof of purchase, would that not be proof that he was yours? And that is a good idea, would you have someone to vouch for you that you were the one that took care of him and trained him? At least if you try everything you can, you tried your hardest, right? Not that it makes it easier though. Im so sorry. |
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04-18-2008, 04:48 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again What a terrible situation. I am so sorry that this is happening. |
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04-25-2008, 10:15 AM
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#13 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NYC
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again I've talked this over with law people again and again, there isn't anything I can do. I can try, but I'd have to pay court fees and it doesn't look good. I know this guy, and he'll fight it with everything hes got, I wouldn't put it past him to lie, and when its word against word there isn't much I can do.
I just won a bunch of money (for my art), I could go get another dog and easily replace all the toys, crate, etc. But I really don't want another dog... I want Oskar. I've even contemplated getting back with him just so I can get Oskar back. I can't do that though... I have to resisist even calling him. I still feel like I'm being controlled by him.
There are so many shelter dogs that need love... and I need love. I'll give it more time still. I don't want to give up on Oskar, but I need to destroy all contact with this man. |
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04-25-2008, 11:52 AM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelsea and Oskar I've talked this over with law people again and again, there isn't anything I can do. I can try, but I'd have to pay court fees and it doesn't look good. I know this guy, and he'll fight it with everything hes got, I wouldn't put it past him to lie, and when its word against word there isn't much I can do.
I just won a bunch of money (for my art), I could go get another dog and easily replace all the toys, crate, etc. But I really don't want another dog... I want Oskar. I've even contemplated getting back with him just so I can get Oskar back. I can't do that though... I have to resisist even calling him. I still feel like I'm being controlled by him.
There are so many shelter dogs that need love... and I need love. I'll give it more time still. I don't want to give up on Oskar, but I need to destroy all contact with this man. | The only thing I could think of is if you did meet up with him. If you somehow got Oskar, and took him home, and then made sure he couldnt come near you. IDk how do-able that is though |
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04-25-2008, 03:17 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again That would be illegal and he WILL call the police, he has connections. I'm still being terrorized.
I just called the shelter today... I was afraid to at first. There is nothing I can do. Even if I convince him to sign over Oskar to me, its a breech of contract. The shelter has a policy where if you dont want your dog it goes back to the shelter. She was kind of hinting to do it anyway, she felt sympathetic to my plight. The only way I con convince this guy is to get back with him. I found out a whole mess of stuff today as well not relating to Oskar. I've never been so angry and sad all at once. I can't do anything about whats been done to me, I can't fight back, all I can do is move on and not look back. Even that is so difficult... he has my puppy... |
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04-25-2008, 04:16 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelsea and Oskar That would be illegal and he WILL call the police, he has connections. I'm still being terrorized.
I just called the shelter today... I was afraid to at first. There is nothing I can do. Even if I convince him to sign over Oskar to me, its a breech of contract. The shelter has a policy where if you dont want your dog it goes back to the shelter. She was kind of hinting to do it anyway, she felt sympathetic to my plight. The only way I con convince this guy is to get back with him. I found out a whole mess of stuff today as well not relating to Oskar. I've never been so angry and sad all at once. I can't do anything about whats been done to me, I can't fight back, all I can do is move on and not look back. Even that is so difficult... he has my puppy... | Yeah, I guess if his name is on the papers. Its frusterating to me too! I feel bad for this dog, he probably doesn't have a good life. have you talked to his family? |
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04-25-2008, 04:25 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again Ha HAD a good life, the hours a day I spent with him, training him, playing with him, cuddling him. When I did my art work, he'd curl up under my chair and sleep with a big happy puppy smile. On and on and on...
Now when ex is at work for 60+ hours a week I don't know what the hell he does or what happens when ex needs to take his anger out. MAYBE I can camp put with a video camera and get something on tape, but I'm sure that is illegal too.
I'm trying to get in contact with his family, but he refuses to give me their numbers, mostly because of something else that happend he doesn't want me to find the truth out to. The guy is so stubborn, it doesn't matter how sweet or demanding I'm being, same responce. |
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04-25-2008, 04:52 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelsea and Oskar Ha HAD a good life, the hours a day I spent with him, training him, playing with him, cuddling him. When I did my art work, he'd curl up under my chair and sleep with a big happy puppy smile. On and on and on...
Now when ex is at work for 60+ hours a week I don't know what the hell he does or what happens when ex needs to take his anger out. MAYBE I can camp put with a video camera and get something on tape, but I'm sure that is illegal too.
I'm trying to get in contact with his family, but he refuses to give me their numbers, mostly because of something else that happend he doesn't want me to find the truth out to. The guy is so stubborn, it doesn't matter how sweet or demanding I'm being, same responce. | From what you have been telling us, (and I'm sure it isn't EVERYthing,) what i would do is call the police, tell them I feared for MY life. I would tell them everything he has done to me. Even though you didn't report it, doesn't mean they don't want to know. I would tell them how he treats this dog, and all they need to do is see the dog to believe it. I would make your case with the police first and foremost, in case anything DOES happen. That way you have it documented. |
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04-25-2008, 06:58 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again I agree with the above post. Go to the police. This is just not right. At least go to the station or something and just talk to them. Tell them you are afraid and what he did to you and that you paid for the dog. |
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04-25-2008, 07:48 PM
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| Re: Not Dead, but I never get to see him again I can tell you right now that if this was a different situation and saw you were the victim of a sex crime, the fact that you took so long to report it WOULD NOT matter. They'd rather know later than never. If you go to them and tell them you FEAR him. And he took the dog YOU paid for, out of spite, and you FEAR that he is going to hurt this dog, its worth a shot. Would he rather give you back the dog, or have to jump through hoops for the cops? |
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