So she has parvo. I have some questions.*

misty073 · 02-07-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Xie

5 months means the second shot would come after the 6 month mark, which is the point when only two shots are necessary so I'm not surprised that a lot of vets said only do two

. But, notice none of the vets said she only needed one shot. That's what the OP seemed to have been told, that one at 8 weeks and one at 6 months was good enough. That obviously doesn't work. One at 8 weeks, then one at 6 months and one at 7 months would work though

. The most recommended still is 8, 12, 16 weeks, to get them safe as quickly and safely as possible.

Ah that make sense then

Now with our second puppy we are doing 13, 17 and 21 weeks.

tonisaysss · 02-07-2010, 10:34 PM

thank you all for the responses. layla was vaccinated by her breeder and dewormed at 6 wks by the humane society; they were not self-administered. the woman at value vet told me she was done after this second one. i'm not knowledgeable when it comes to shots but i will definitely be going over and making a vaccination schedule with the vet before layla leaves.

thank you robrowe -- the fact that your pup lived a long, healthy life after a parvo experience is very reassuring. you read online about how parvo pups are 'weak and sickly' yet you hear real life experiences about dogs living long and normal lives. google will be the death of me. i should stop looking stuff up. :P

i just spent like 2 and a half hours with her for the second time today. she slept very soundly 3/4 of the time so i was thankful she was resting. she had a soft e-collar on because i guess she's finally realized she has an IV and she kept licking it. i'm taking it as a good sign because before i think she was too delirious to mess with it. when we got there, she was up and trying to strong-arm past us to get out of the cage. she still perks up anytime she hears a bag open, so i think she's convinced herself she's VERY ready for food.

anyway, i left at 10:30 PM and she had not vomited since early that morning. she's still on a very slow IV drip. anyway, just wanted to update. things are returning to normal slowly but surely. hopefully she'll be home within a day or two.

tonisaysss · 02-07-2010, 10:35 PM

also, for those who have experienced parvo, are dogs REALLY immune to it after overcoming it? i've read online a billion times that they are, but i never want to experience this again so i'm curious. i'll be asking my vet but i'd like to know other opinions.

Binkalette · 02-07-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tonisaysss

also, for those who have experienced parvo, are dogs REALLY immune to it after overcoming it? i've read online a billion times that they are, but i never want to experience this again so i'm curious. i'll be asking my vet but i'd like to know other opinions.

She should be. Just like us, when dogs get sick with something, their immune system creates antibodies to seek out and kill the virus.. Those antibodies are then saved and remembered, so if she ever comes into contact with a parvo virus again, those antibodies can just take care of it. There are other strains of parvo though. CPV-2b is the most common one, and the one that we currently vaccinate against. CPV-2c is becoming more common though.. and there is no vaccine for that yet. I believe Nessa's Callahan had that strain.

Also, your girl had contracted parvo previous to the last set of shots the vet gave her. It takes about 5 days from infection to start showing symptoms. So, the shot the vet gave her didn't have a chance to protect her at all.

Xie · 02-07-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Binkalette

She should be. Just like us, when dogs get sick with something, their immune system creates antibodies to seek out and kill the virus.. Those antibodies are then saved and remembered, so if she ever comes into contact with a parvo virus again, those antibodies can just take care of it. There are other strains of parvo though. CPV-2b is the most common one, and the one that we currently vaccinate against. CPV-2c is becoming more common though.. and there is no vaccine for that yet. I believe Nessa's Callahan had that strain.

CPV-2b and CPV-2c are 99% similar genetically and it has been proven in studies that the regular parvo vaccine works just as well on both of them. Read the last post in the Parvo Alert thread stickied at the top of this forum for more information.

tonisaysss · 02-07-2010, 11:10 PM

i've heard that the vaccine has a great chance to ward off the other ugly strains of parvo. i'm going to talk to the vet regarding what i should do with shots after this. it's obviously going to be a little while so her immune system can recover after going through this.

i would like to have her vaccinated as a safety precaution but i'm scared all together simply because of the coincidence of her coming down with parvo right after the shot even though there's no connection. we'll see. thanks all.

RedyreRottweilers · 02-08-2010, 08:02 AM

Vaccination depresses the immune system for several weeks. I DO know of instances where puppies have developed the disease after vaccination, but it is not common.

If it were my puppy, I would do a blood titer in about 30 days to test for Parvo immunity. If the titer says she is good, I would not ever vaccinate her against it again.

woofie · 02-08-2010, 02:37 PM

Sorry to hear that your pup is sick. Maya and I are sending lots of hugs and good wishes your way. Hope you post an update soon!

GreyWolf11 · 02-08-2010, 04:09 PM

I just recently rescued an 8 week old pup which tested positive for parvo. We caught it early which greatly reduced the noticeable effects of this illness. He was quickly administered medication. As I said, his symptoms were minimal because we were able to catch it early on. Consistent supervision and health monitoring are vital for the first 4 months of a canine. Furthermore, the one good thing is that once your pup contracts parvo and beats it his/her body is now completely immune for life

Were winding down on the meds and are awaiting a final stool test to see if the parvo has been depleted. If not, one more round is administered and that should take care of it. Even sick, our pup is a happy funloving boy. I suggest puppy vitamins for all growing pups especially with health issues but always ask a doctor to be sure your not doubling up on anything he/she is already getting. Your dog is your baby. keep an eye on him and monitor his health and behavior in order to catch health issues before they become potentially harmful.

tonisaysss · 02-08-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GreyWolf11

I just recently rescued an 8 week old pup which tested positive for parvo. We caught it early which greatly reduced the noticeable effects of this illness. He was quickly administered medication. As I said, his symptoms were minimal because we were able to catch it early on. Consistent supervision and health monitoring are vital for the first 4 months of a canine. Furthermore, the one good thing is that once your pup contracts parvo and beats it his/her body is now completely immune for life

Were winding down on the meds and are awaiting a final stool test to see if the parvo has been depleted. If not, one more round is administered and that should take care of it. Even sick, our pup is a happy funloving boy. I suggest puppy vitamins for all growing pups especially with health issues but always ask a doctor to be sure your not doubling up on anything he/she is already getting. Your dog is your baby. keep an eye on him and monitor his health and behavior in order to catch health issues before they become potentially harmful.

yes, we caught layla's case before she even experienced diarrhea and very early as well. she was perfectly fine earlier during the day that she was diagnosed. as far as i know, she did not experience bloody/extreme diarrhea. her stool is soft as of now -- no parvo diarrhea.

layla will be given antibiotics and anti-nausea medication when sent home.

tonisaysss · 02-08-2010, 07:41 PM

and thank you redyre. a titre is a great way to test immunity. i intend on having a CBC done on her to make sure everything is just right.

thank you all for the responses as well.

the last time layla has vomited was early feb 7 morning. it's now 9 pm on feb 8. she was fed around 12 pm today at the vet (a bland canned I/D food) and is doing very well. she finally has some carbs in her system so she was going INSANE, was hyper, licking us, wouldn't lay down, was trying to push past us, and was wagging like crazy. she was even chewing on my boyfriend's hands. we were under the impression that she could go home today so we stayed from 4 PM to 7 PM (doh!) and were told tomorrow would be the day if she holds everything down. she's still on a very slight IV drip because she's being weened on to food and they don't want to get ahead of themselves and give her full access to water yet. they gave me a syringe full of water so i let her lap some up out of my hand to wet her mouth a bit. she was resting when we left so we're hoping all goes well.

i tried to see my current charges w/ the vet and my bill is apparently 1,200$ and i've only put down 140$ (all i had) so hopefully i can remind them of the 500$ estimate tomorrow and they can cut me some slack because i'm a student. (doh, again!)

ugh, i'm so happy things are looking better. layla is my miracle money pit.

lucidity · 02-08-2010, 07:46 PM

That's GREAT news!

I hope you get to bring her home tomorrow.

Vet charges can be HORRIBLY expensive.

Cadence fell sick when he was about 3.5 months old--he kept vomiting, non stop, for about an hour... and it was about 9pm so I had to bring him to the e-vet... One X-ray, a shot, and some medication later... I was $400 in the red. Sigh. I just charged everything to my credit card and tried not to think about it. The best part was... there wasn't even anything wrong with him!

After that I immediately got an insurance plan. It only costs me about $18 per month, much less than the $400 I'd paid. =/ You should look into that. Puppies have a tendency to fall sick, get into accidents, and ingest random things. Sigh.

misty073 · 02-08-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tonisaysss

i tried to see my current charges w/ the vet and my bill is apparently 1,200$ and i've only put down 140$ (all i had) so hopefully i can remind them of the 500$ estimate tomorrow and they can cut me some slack because i'm a student. (doh, again!)

Wow you are lucky they are doing this for you. When Max got sick in Nov it was $700 over a few days (200 the first and then another 400 the next and then 100 the next) I was given an estimate but with us just doing a major move and my husband finally working again after being laid off this was a huge amount we just didnt have. The vet gave us the option of either paying the bill or signing the cat over to them and they would fix him and turn him over to the SPCA I was devastated, I left him there after talking to my husband who said we didnt have anymore money (this was after the first two hundred) he left the house came up with the money (they wanted a deposit of 500 more before they would even do the surgery with out him being signed over) and never even told me he did it, I found out when the vet called and said he was doing good. They did allow him to come home that night and I brought him in the wed, thur and friday morning to have his bladder expressed at no charge...so they did help me out financially after the fact

meghf · 02-08-2010, 09:09 PM

I've been following this thread from the beginning and just wanted to say I'm so happy she's doing better and you're getting to bring her home soon! As for your bill, oy vey, I hope their $500 estimate is what they'll end up charging you. If not, hopefully they'll let you set up a payment plan or something.

Good luck!

Max's Mom · 02-08-2010, 09:18 PM

I'm so glad that Layla is doing well! Parvo is very expensive to treat. Maybe they will allow you to make payments. Best of luck.

tonisaysss · 02-09-2010, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by misty073

Wow you are lucky they are doing this for you. When Max got sick in Nov it was $700 over a few days (200 the first and then another 400 the next and then 100 the next) I was given an estimate but with us just doing a major move and my husband finally working again after being laid off this was a huge amount we just didnt have. The vet gave us the option of either paying the bill or signing the cat over to them and they would fix him and turn him over to the SPCA I was devastated, I left him there after talking to my husband who said we didnt have anymore money (this was after the first two hundred) he left the house came up with the money (they wanted a deposit of 500 more before they would even do the surgery with out him being signed over) and never even told me he did it, I found out when the vet called and said he was doing good. They did allow him to come home that night and I brought him in the wed, thur and friday morning to have his bladder expressed at no charge...so they did help me out financially after the fact

wow. my heart dropped as a i read "give the money or sign him over to give to the spca." i'm terribly sorry that you were stuck in such a hard place like that.

i've always hated vets until this. i was speaking to a guy who has a kitten with severe diabetes and he could not afford testing/etc and she got very bad so he HAD to bring her in because she wouldn't eat -- they have been keeping her for 4 days with meds to stabilize her free of charge. i'm just so genuinely impressed with the vet/staff thus far. i'm really hoping they do follow through and give me a break because i'm going to be RUINED (will probably have to get a job and take time off school) financially for months if i have to pay a full $1200+.

tonisaysss · 02-09-2010, 09:16 AM

just spoke to the vet (10 am feb 9) and he said she's doing great. no vomit, no nothing. the doctor is going to go over her and make sure all is well and she will very likely be home tonight.

i miss her so much! thank goodness.

misty073 · 02-09-2010, 10:30 AM

crossing my fingers for you that today is the day!

woofie · 02-09-2010, 12:21 PM

So happy to hear that she may be well enough to come home today. I have my fingers (and paws) crossed for a continued speedy recovery!

tonisaysss · 02-09-2010, 03:18 PM

well i'm allowed to go pick her up at 6 tonight. (less than 2 hrs away!)

i'm a little upset about how the billing worked out. i suppose i'd welcome any financial hit simply because they made her better, but still. i ended up being charged 1,055$ instead of my originally quoted 500-600$ for this. i explained my situation (i'm 19 and currently an unemployed student) and they didn't cut me any slack even after i was NOT approved for carecredit. sigh. she even still have to go back for panacur wormer.

oh well. i went and visited her and she was literally climbing the walls. she's FULL of energy and i'm going to have a heck of a time making her stay calm when we get home. i went out and bought her new toys because i threw out all old ones.

just going to be happy to have her home if anything. thank you all.