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01-08-2007, 04:19 PM
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| Maybe if the OP is still reading this she will see that there is still so much that she needs to learn about giving proper care to her dog and ONE HELL of alot more to learn before even entertaining the thought of breeding.
Maybe it will finally occur to her that she should just do the responsible (and easier) thing and focus on getting proper care for her dog, which includes having her spayed.
Maybe she can then be happy knowing that she did the best for her dog and didn't contribute to the very sad state of the overpopulation issue.
Maybe. |
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01-08-2007, 05:25 PM
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#42 | | Senior Member
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| As Carla mention i do voluntter every Saturday at Petsmart with a rescue organization. Talking to people about the dog and showing them the dogs and everything so they have a better chance of getting a home. I been doing this for several months. That does NOT mean im not an animal lover like everyone here says. |
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01-08-2007, 06:02 PM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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| Well, if you can't make the connection between those poor dogs at Petsmart needing homes, (and they are the lucky ones compared to the dogs that are still in the pound and will be imminently euthanized), and you bringing more dogs into the world, then maybe you should start looking for some of those pills you mentioned on the previous page.
I'm done.
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01-08-2007, 08:05 PM
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#44 | | Senior Member
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| Umm i actually help put more than you would think. At home is a different thing i have my life. Im not going to sit here and start a fight over a subject that i should have NOT even said.
IM done with these POST too. |
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01-08-2007, 10:57 PM
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#45 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Leila12345666 As Carla mention i do voluntter every Saturday at Petsmart with a rescue organization. Talking to people about the dog and showing them the dogs and everything so they have a better chance of getting a home. I been doing this for several months. That does NOT mean im not an animal lover like everyone here says. | You help with homless pets. yet dont see a problem with making a couple of mutt pups? Why not just get your family to adopt some of teh dogs ou help out? Instead of creating more life why not help the ones that need help?
If you really want to have a litter of pups. Why not take in a pregnent mom from the shelter and foster her and help with adopting out her pups. that way you get a litter to lok after and still are helping out a dog and pups that need help. |
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01-08-2007, 11:05 PM
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#46 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Tankstar If you really want to have a litter of pups. Why not take in a pregnent mom from the shelter and foster her and help with adopting out her pups. that way you get a litter to lok after and still are helping out a dog and pups that need help. | What an EXCELLENT idea !!!!  |
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01-12-2007, 05:39 AM
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#47 | | Senior Member
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| So you love your dog:
1 - Can't tell, didn't bother to find out how you can tell when she is in heat.
2 - take her to the dog park and lose her and then think hmmm she might be pregnant
3 - If she is pregnant it is more important that you can breed her in the future rather than the immediate health risks by a puppy being pregnant by who knows what kind of dog (Snowshoe's post)
4 - you want to breed some mutts
5 - you supposedly have loving homes lined up BUT what if her offspring have pups can you guarantee they will go to good people (who will spay their mutts)and then those dogs have pups etc... Chances are that some of these mutts will end up in abusive homes, shelters and killed because nobody wants them.
So you love your dog but don't give a s**t about her grand pups, great grand pups, great great etc...etc...
A big hypocrisy is that you say you do volenteer work for shelter dogs. Can't you see YOU ARE THE CULPRIT. You are that catalyst that sends these poor dogs to shelters.
Being a resposible dog owner is not just about how you treat your dog (obviously you are not one anyway) but it is how you treat all dogs presently and dogs in the future! |
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01-13-2007, 01:08 AM
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#48 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Tamara So you love your dog:
1 - Can't tell, didn't bother to find out how you can tell when she is in heat.
2 - take her to the dog park and lose her and then think hmmm she might be pregnant
3 - If she is pregnant it is more important that you can breed her in the future rather than the immediate health risks by a puppy being pregnant by who knows what kind of dog (Snowshoe's post)
4 - you want to breed some mutts
5 - you supposedly have loving homes lined up BUT what if her offspring have pups can you guarantee they will go to good people (who will spay their mutts)and then those dogs have pups etc... Chances are that some of these mutts will end up in abusive homes, shelters and killed because nobody wants them.
So you love your dog but don't give a s**t about her grand pups, great grand pups, great great etc...etc...
A big hypocrisy is that you say you do volenteer work for shelter dogs. Can't you see YOU ARE THE CULPRIT. You are that catalyst that sends these poor dogs to shelters.
Being a resposible dog owner is not just about how you treat your dog (obviously you are not one anyway) but it is how you treat all dogs presently and dogs in the future! | Pravo, you couldn't have said it any better.  |
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01-13-2007, 01:33 AM
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#49 | | Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by DogAdvocat What an EXCELLENT idea !!!!  | Hmmm, how do I say this tactfully... Let's say a random person "Had their sign", would we want them attending to a pregnant dog with pups? Considering that, I'm not so sure the idea is excellent, lol. |
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01-13-2007, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Curbside Prophet Hmmm, how do I say this tactfully... Let's say a random person "Had their sign", would we want them attending to a pregnant dog with pups? Considering that, I'm not so sure the idea is excellent, lol. | Ok, anyone with a sign is out of the running.
I'd like to think that shelters would screen well enough to ascertain whether there was a "sign" or not, but I know that's a pipe dream.
I have run into a few doggy midwives, and maybe anyone taking on a pregnant shelter dog should have to be mentored by a doggy midwife? That might even be a way that breeders could help the shelters - by acting as volunteer midwives. |
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01-13-2007, 06:18 PM
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#51 | | Senior Member
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| female with pups i think it is hard for most dogs in a shelter to be adopted if a female came into most shelter she would not be adopted at all but most likely put to sleep before the pups were ever born thatis what these dogs end up like it or not the truth i know it hurts but that why all unless show breeder should spay and nuter so we wont have dogs out there having a litter of pups in a card boad box in a old car with not even food starving for someone to love and give her and her new babies a good loving home |
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01-15-2007, 02:35 PM
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#52 | | Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by Leila12345666 As Carla mention i do voluntter every Saturday at Petsmart with a rescue organization. Talking to people about the dog and showing them the dogs and everything so they have a better chance of getting a home. I been doing this for several months. That does NOT mean im not an animal lover like everyone here says. |
PetsMart IS NOT a shelter dear. Why don't you go watch unwanted animals being euthinizd for no other reason than people think animals are disposable. Last years 'cute puppy' becomes the unruly dog and gets taken to the county (or city) shelter, not adopted and euthinized. Until you watch the process, you'll never understand. |
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01-15-2007, 03:19 PM
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#53 | | Senior Member
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| Lelia do everyone and your dog a favor and get her SPAYED.You are the type of person who should never breed and or own a dog and petsmart is not a shelter or a dog rescue.Try helping out at a real shelter and see what happens to the dogs that come from backyard breeders and people who do not spay or nueter their dogs. |
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01-15-2007, 05:26 PM
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#54 | | Senior Member
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| rescues are not like shelters. rescues normally rescue dogs from the shelters on death row. So if you really want to make a differnce go to a actualy animal shelter. and dont breed your dog. dont be so greedy witht he whole dog breeding thing. If you are in it to make money, you wont make any. Espeacially with mutts. I know some one who after selling show puppies she is in the hol FIVE THOUSAND yes 5000 dollers. Becuase she didnt worry about wasting money so to say. She wanted and bred show puppies, and even with them selling for 2500 bucks it still cost her well over 10000 dolelrs o care for them for just over 2 months. |
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01-19-2007, 04:07 PM
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#55 | | Junior Member
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| Holly's Mom My 6 1/2 mo. Havanese/Maltese is in heat and you can barely tell. She is swollen around her private area and winey and picky with her food. She may be having her first cycle. Put a little panty with a pad on and see if there is a spot of blood.  |
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01-19-2007, 10:59 PM
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#56 | | Senior Member
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| Gonehappy, did you read this thread? If not please do so, and it will tell you why ideally you shouldn't have allowed your dog to go through her first heat, and all the reasons for having her spayed for her own health.
Please don't breed or buy while homeless dogs die. |
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03-29-2007, 02:29 PM
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#57 | | Banned
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| Re: Oh NO i think my 6 month old Scottish Terrier is pregnant! HELP. okay before i go any further i appologise ahead of time to the moderators and administrators if i seem harsh with what i am about to say but as a court agent that sees all to many abused animals i cant shut up this time and i am sorry.
lets get something straight. this person wants to breed her dog with a poodle and her dog is a scottish terrier? okay, more pups winding up in the pound to be euthanized.
2. The dog is 6 months old and she has already bred it?
talk about irresponsible.
3. So you want to breed do you? Can you handle it? Are you equipped financially, emotionally and otherwise for a) testing the pups for genetically transmitted diseases such as vWD, hemophilia, hip and elbow ailments, etc?
4. each pup or mutt in this case must be tested at owners expense. All first shots and inital deworming must be paid for by the owner of the bitch.
5. you obviously have not cared for this animal as it is and keep it outside where it is literally being eaten alive by fleas from what you are saying.
6. You are abusing it but not taking it for proper medical care and dont pretend that you have because no vet would have allowed you to leave their clinic with a flea infested animal with multiple types of worms. The vet did not tell you the dog is not pregnant, because as educated people on this forum have already told you, the vet could not tell you the dog is not pregnant yet it is too soon. if the dog has a infection and it probably has from the sound of it, it is not in good conditon. if it has as many fleas and worms as you say, the vet would have seized the dog and called the SPCA.
So you want to breed do you?
you have a 6 month old dog that is probably pregnant and from the sound of it you dont even know waht type of dog got it that way. hook worms round worms and every other type of worm, it is a walking banquet table for insects and it has been abused beyond anything legal. you let it eat sccraps that fall to the floor right? do you even know dear what type of foods a dog can not have and can have? probably not. Did you know dogs can not eat choclate, onions and a multitude of other things. you said something about living on a farm but do you know what insecticides are posion to the dog? did you know that certain cleaning chemicals and antifluids are highly toxic? probably not. HON, do the dog a favor, turn it over to the humane society or SPCA and buy yourself some fish. |
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03-29-2007, 02:31 PM
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#58 | | Super Moderator
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| Re: Oh NO i think my 6 month old Scottish Terrier is pregnant! HELP. Ya, this was a frustrating thread when it started, but it's time to put this one to rest. |
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