Blood in pups stool

mrsd211 · 09-08-2007, 05:49 PM

Yesterday I noticed blood in my 5 month-old Yorkie's poop. I immediatly bagged it up and took it to the vet, the test came back negative. They said it was probably nothing and to put her on a bland diet for a couple days. They recommended rice (i'm assuming brown), cottage cheese and boiled chicken. If it continues after a couple days on that, then I should bring her in. My question is, is this normal? She eats Nutro Ultra with no prior problems. Has anyone had this problem with their dog?

Curbside Prophet · 09-08-2007, 07:12 PM

Was the blood on the outside of the poop, as if it were a sausage case? If so, your dog couls have eaten something sharp, and the object pierced the lining if the intestines. I'd say it's not normal, but if my guess is right, and the object was small enough, the intestines would heal on their own. The alternative however, if it is a bigger object, is scarry. Did they take any x-rays? Did they feel around your dogs organs? I don't mean to scare you, but it is among the possibilities.

What kind of food are you feeding him? What you saw may not have been blood at all. Some dog foods have red dye in them, and if it accumulates for some reason, I'm sure it could look a lot like blood.

crazydays · 09-08-2007, 07:23 PM

Hi- another cause of bleeding can be allergy to whats in the food. I am assuming there hasn't been a change in food. I am not qualified to try to tell you what the problem could be. My dog-7yr old has extreme bleeding when she has allergy to seameal and kelp. 3days ago I started a switch of food from solid gold to Innova. I was very careful not to chose one with kelp and seameal. Today there was quite alot of blood in her stool. I am only left to try to guess what it is. So- I just wanted to let you know that food allergies can cause bleeding.

briteday · 09-08-2007, 09:58 PM

A good case of parasites, quite common in pups, can also cause bloody stools. If it continues take another FRESH specimen into the vet. Parasites are very difficult to isolate from stool specimens. Often a vet will treat for worms even though the test is negative, if the symptoms fall in line with that diagnosis.

Lightwingcreations · 09-09-2007, 09:55 AM

I agree with what is said above. Also, was the stool that had blood in/on it hard? If it was a very hard and larger than normal stool, it could be that there was some tearing at the anus, which could explain the blood. I would definately watch her and her bowel movements for anything else. Watch for straining when deficating.

mrsd211 · 09-09-2007, 02:27 PM

Now a new problem... I started feeding her what the vet recommended, but now she almost 'shoots' liquid poop out. It's a very small amout and has nothing solid to pick up, just a slight spot of blood in this mornings droppings. She still is acting normal, eats and plays. She doesn't seem 'sick' at all. Should I switch her back to her dry food as soon as the blood issue is gone? I had both my dogs on Canidae, but it made my 1 year old itch like crazy. What dry kibble is good for both puppies and adults? Feeding them seperate is almost impossible and I was told that I could put the younger one on adult food... as I was reminded years ago puppy food didn't even exsist and dogs were fine. I don't want to keep switching thier food, I just want to find a good quality dry kibble that they can both eat and be done with it! Seems like whatever I feed them, one of them has a problem.

I forgot to mention what food they were on ... Nutro Ultra small breed. I had the puppy, Pippa, on puppy food and the adult, Maggie,on dog food, but they ate each others, so I started feeding them in different rooms... but Pippa won't eat unless Maggie's right beside her. So then I just started feeding them both puppy food, (Nutro Ultra Puppy), but noticed Maggie gaining weight. Then at a trip to the vet, I saw that Canidae is for puppies & adults... FINALLY, I have found the perfect solution to the feeding problems, right? Wrong! About 2 weeks into that, Maggie wouldn't stop itching, that was when I was told that the 5 month old could be on adult food and went to Nutro Ultra Small Breed Adult. They've been eating that for about 3 weeks, the bloody poop started 2 days ago, so I'm not really sure if it was the food. The blood is getting less, but they've both been eating brown rice, boiled chicken & cottage cheese, that is what the vet told me to feed her, so I just give it to both of them. But now Pippa has the liquid version of #2.

crazydays · 09-09-2007, 03:46 PM

Hi. It might be the speed at which you are transitioning from the old food to the new. I am in the process of switching as well. My dog is passing blood in her stools as well. I really slowed down the process and since I did that she has had no more blood. We have to remember changing food can be really hard on the GI system.

mrsd211 · 09-09-2007, 04:07 PM

Should I just pick a food and slowly change them, over a week or longer? Is it okay to give the 5 month old the same food as the 14 month old? Or would it be okay to just feed them both puppy food for 5 more months than switch? I've had dogs my whole life and never been so worried about what food they were eating, nor have I had any problems...

Renoman · 09-09-2007, 04:35 PM

First, I'm no vet , but stop trying to get the dog back on kibble so quickly. You have to give her digestive system time to calm down and heal itself before introducing solid food again.

Did your vet give you any flagyl for the dog? Flagyl is an antibiotic/anti-inflammatory and often prescribed in cases like this to help calm the digestive tract down.

Obviously there is something very wrong going on. I'd call the vet and have them do a thorough exam.

Vinnysgirl · 09-09-2007, 08:14 PM

I went through this with Maycie because she was grabbing bites of Sophie's adult dog food even with me standing right next to her. The vet treated her for a colon irritation because it was fresh bright red blood and not much so he said it was in the large intestine colon area. He also told me because Sophie is only 14 months old that she could continue the puppy food I'm feeding Maycie since she is so active and they would be eating together. They do wonderfully now and we haven't hand any more issues regarding food and upset stomachs and irritated colons. I would go back and talk to your vet. Have your dog go through an exam and then ask the vet for something to help calm her intestines down. I had to feed my girls rice and chicken for 2 weeks and then slowly mixed the puppy food back in for another week until it was all puppy food. They had soft stools for a day or two and now it's back to normal. It does take some time though so patience is definitely a virtue when it comes to a puppys tummy!!! Good luck!

mrsd211 · 09-10-2007, 08:16 PM

So the blood has pretty much cleared up, but I'm going to keep her on the chicken & rice diet for a little while longer. Both dogs now have very soft, (near liquid) & mucusy stools. Is that the normal result from chicken & rice?

briteday · 09-10-2007, 08:54 PM

Doesn't sound normal to me. I would call the vet and at least take in another stool sample. And I would want the dogs seen again.

Lightwingcreations · 09-11-2007, 12:04 AM

I agree with Brite, take your dogs to the vet with fresh stool samples and tell the vet everything that has been going on. Including anything and everything they have been ingesting. Near liquid stool is totally NOT normal, especially if it occurs more than once and both dogs should have a very thorough exam by the vet. Dogs can become dehydrated very quickly when they have consistant diarrhea so you need to get this checked quickly. Keep us posted.

mrsd211 · 09-11-2007, 02:19 PM

She has an appointment tomorrow, that was the soonest they could see her. My other dogs poop is normal now, but the younger one is still having problems. It probably is from the quick change in their food, I just hope not too much damage has been done. She has been scooting lately too, I'm hoping it's just because she itches. She was just dewormed a couple of moths ago, could she still get worms? Everything else is normal except for the poop, so I really don't think it's anything serious... or at least I don't want to think that. After I talk to the vet, I think I'll probably just put both of them back on puppy food for about 5 more months... when it's time, I'm going to keep them on the chicken & rice diet as long as the vet recommends then VERY slowly mix in some puppy food. I wish that Canidae worked out, I hear nothing but good stuff about it.

mrsd211 · 09-24-2007, 07:59 PM

Quick update and more confusion. I took her to the vet, followed all of their instructions, gave her all of her meds and it never got better. I then took another sample in, which they sent out and it also came back negative. So the good news is it's not a parasite. But we're going on week #4 with mucusy and slightly bloody mush. She is currently eating ONLY white rice and cottage cheese, which the vet said to feed her, if that doesn't help after 3-4 days, (which I am seeing no improvement and this is day #2), then they'll try something else. What on earth can her problem be???? Could she be lactose intolerant? Could the cottage cheese be causing this? I hate to keep changing things up on her and with the vet seemingly stumped, it kind of worries me since she is so small and still a puppy. She is only 5.5 months old and weighs 4.6 lbs. She doesn't act sick, so I don't think she's affected by it. But with her not being fully housebroken... well you get the idea. And she won't go on the grass...uuhhhgggg!

Any thoughts on pinpointing what the problem may be?

Shalva · 09-24-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsd211

Quick update and more confusion. I took her to the vet, followed all of their instructions, gave her all of her meds and it never got better. I then took another sample in, which they sent out and it also came back negative. So the good news is it's not a parasite. But we're going on week #4 with mucusy and slightly bloody mush. She is currently eating ONLY white rice and cottage cheese, which the vet said to feed her, if that doesn't help after 3-4 days, (which I am seeing no improvement and this is day #2), then they'll try something else. What on earth can her problem be???? Could she be lactose intolerant? Could the cottage cheese be causing this? I hate to keep changing things up on her and with the vet seemingly stumped, it kind of worries me since she is so small and still a puppy. She is only 5.5 months old and weighs 4.6 lbs. She doesn't act sick, so I don't think she's affected by it. But with her not being fully housebroken... well you get the idea. And she won't go on the grass...uuhhhgggg!

Any thoughts on pinpointing what the problem may be?

what did they give you for meds??????
I would pull her off the cottage cheese.....
I would want her on a course of metronidizol and I would want her tested for coccidia...... and I might even treat regardless.....

I think I would have her on straight rice for a few days and then add in some boiled hamburger I probably would also add in some probiotics and digestive enzymes to her food and see how that goes and see what happens....
it might also be time for a second opinion from a different vet ....

mrsd211 · 09-24-2007, 08:33 PM

They gave her Carafate and Flagyl. If I put her on straight rice, will she be getting enough nutrients?

Shalva · 09-24-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsd211

They gave her Carafate and Flagyl. If I put her on straight rice, will she be getting enough nutrients?

metronidizol is flagyl.....

get rid of the cottage cheese and lactose stuff....
add digestive enzymes the rice will not be enough nutrients for the long term but you can see if it helps the reality is if everything is going through her right now then she isn't getting the nutrients from the foods anyway

and get a second opinion and bring a new stool sample.
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Brindle_APBT · 09-24-2007, 08:51 PM

Im not sure if you posted this already, but i would get a Parvo test done, that sounds just like what happened to my dogs when they were pups. And they had Parvo. Let me know how it turns out. Get it done fast though cause if not found early parvo can kill ur dog.

mrsd211 · 09-28-2007, 09:41 PM

Okay... now she is on a diet straight from the vet... Purina EN. On average she has a couple semi-firm poops a day and a couple bloody, runny poops. She gets nothing else to eat, unless she catches a fly. So I guess it's getting better. I think I'm responsible for this whole mess by switching her food too fast. I read on another board that someone had their dog on a bland diet for 9 months before their stools got back to normal. I guess I better stock up on this food. My other concern now is that if she still has this problem in the next couple of months I can't get her spayed. They suggested I get this problem cleared up first, but I don't want her going through a heat. She is pushing 6 months now. You think the dry food would help firm her poop up faster? The canned is pretty solid , the vet said it doesn't matter much, maybe I should try both? I just want this cleared up so I can have her spayed before her first heat.